A New Challenge. No 4.

[Chris B]

[pinky]

nice one chris, and a very common call out , a good one for Nathan as we discussed this today ,good luck chaps

[master in training]

so i assume that shimming and picking are out of the question due to the damaged/deadlocked lock?

my first tactic would be to look for another means of entry, open window, back door, etc.

after that, i'd be stuck and wind up phoning someone, coming back to a pc to check this thread (lol), or (i feel so dirty saying this...) getting the drill out. since im not a locky though, im no worried, because right now i wouldnt have to deal with this!

[Elijah]

I can't really offer anything to the discussion, but when someone comes up with the answer, would you mind PMing me or posting some information about Yale Night Latch locks? I've personally never heard about them before - are they something common in the UK? Maybe I've heard of them under a different name or something, but I'm inclined to say I would completely destroy the lock and replace it with something else =) I'm an amateur locky after all!

[pinky]

assume that this is the only point of entry and no other is available.

the drill is one possible means and not unusual in this lockout.

its worth remembering though that even in drilling the cylinder , the door is not open , as its the latch thats locked and not the cylinder.

ideas chaps, this one will help alot of new guys as its a very common problem, last 1 i had was when the dog jumped up at the door and locked the owner out, would have been a clever dog had it been able to unlock too.

[Chris B]

[master in training]

could you use one of those cylinder removeal things where you screw screws into the cylinder face and rip it out? then surely you could either sort out the problem or at least access the locking mechanism to open it.

is there a way to take out the whole yale lock? i know they arent secured that strongly if i remember rightly

[gee252]

could you drill the cylinder screws out ,remove the cylinder and gain access to the back of the latch and release the dropped button.

[pinky]

along right lines, how would you get to the snib to release it.

[gee252]

hole cutter to cut the back plate

[1st solution locksmiths]

Drill retaining screws, Remove cylinder drill hole in back plate insert screw driver into latch plate & lift snib pull latch across, hopefully it opens

Well It worked for me.

[oldlock]

We have a winner !

Well, two winners, gee252 was first, but 1st Sol. was more complete in his answer. Well done - Sometimes you will need to push the limits of your 32mm hole saw to get into the lock case on thick doors.

Paul

[WhiteHat]

I just thought I'd say a big public congratulations to chrisb, oldlock and everyone else that does these threads - it's absolutely delightfull to see people getting into helping the community this way

[master in training]

i think its a really good idea, all the questions are about things a locky would encounter so its a good learning tool, keep 'em coming!

[pixel]

Also remember that on most nightlatches (Yale 89 types) the key will turn
so far depending on which position the rotatable slot is in, before it stops.

Check to see how tight the door is as excessive pressure on the latch bolt
will give you the same problem, leverage on the key might save the
parts.

And after the cylinder has been removed try opening the nightlatch with a
large screwdriver before destroying it as depending on the problem this
can open the door.