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council fitted legge value bs lock

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Postby master in training » 16 Apr 2005 18:53

lol, rockford, we're so poor we could afford a new cylinder, let alone the replacement locks and fitting by a locky, they wont get replaced any time soon, lol. sorry to disappoint you, doesnt look like there'll be a job for you. :lol:
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Postby 1st solution locksmiths » 16 Apr 2005 18:55

I was ever going to book him on the course :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Rockford » 16 Apr 2005 18:58

Try spending less money on beer - then you'll be able to afford decent security.
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Postby master in training » 16 Apr 2005 19:17

i live with my mum and sister, havent been out in ages, i lead an amazingly boring life.
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Re: council fitted legge value bs lock

Postby sandwell247 » 17 Apr 2005 14:14

pinky wrote:as when i removed the BS face plate and removed the lock i was horrified to see that the hard plate had been removed from the lock?


The answer is simple as a ex council carpenter of 12 yrs,this lock was probaly originally fitted with a standard 5 lever lock,as with most councils now they sell house insurance hence changing the lock to a bs lock.
to comply.
BUT every job on the councils DLO has a (sm)minute value to do the job in, and to make bonus you have to do this job in half the time so it is easier to remove the hard plates than to pair more timber out of the mortice to accept the lock.
this lock most probaly would not have had the box keep either.

most councils mottos are "quantity not quality"shame as there are good tradesmen employed,the most valuable tool is the PEN
Took me quite some time to adapt to being a maintenance chippie
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Postby EvoRed » 17 Apr 2005 14:34

But without the hardplate and box keep the lock isn't BS rated anyway so kinda defeats the object!
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Postby Floater » 17 Apr 2005 14:56

Some locks have no anti drill plates and are still BS rated because the lock body is hardened steel, useful to have if you want to save time fitting.
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Postby 1st solution locksmiths » 17 Apr 2005 14:58

I bet you fitted that one a doug :lol: :lol:
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Postby sandwell247 » 17 Apr 2005 15:04

no ive never stooped that low might have splashed some floor leveler on skirting boards and booked self leveling the whole floor though.lol those were the days :lol: colleagues used to call nigel kennedy good with the old fiddle :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Unlock-IT » 17 Apr 2005 18:09

I have to be honest I am a council carpenter and have been for 20 years, and did my aprentiship with them. I have never removed a hard plate from a bs mortice lock in my life and never would. When I go to purchase locks I always purchase the best available regardless of cost. I believe in doing a job the way I would expect a job done for me, even down to the cleaning up after. I don't know what the guys who maintain the houses do as I work on public buildings, but knowing quite a few of them and how maticulus they are in their work I wouldn't think they would remove the hard plates either. We are lucky we don't work to (sm) values anymore, and even when I did, the job takes as long as it takes, but has to be right when it is finished. A great deal of the shoddy workmanship we come across is done by outside contractors, they do half the job get paid without having it inspected and once they have the money you don't see them for dust. A complaint then comes in that the job isn't finished or something has gone wrong, you can never get the contractor back so we end up putting the job right, and that realy gets up my nose to be polite.
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Postby sandwell247 » 17 Apr 2005 18:38

I done the same apprentice on major works (council house building) then minor works maintaining schools and public buildings libraries and court buildings in wolves.
did not like the knocking on doors trying to get access to carry out work on council houses then being slated for being that so called "COUNCIL WORKER"who one does the work while 4 or 5 watch,pity really as the training is second to none.
Think that times have changed now you have to be a all rounder now perhaps it were a plumber or a bricklayer who possibly changed this lock on pinkys lockout
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Postby quicklocks » 18 Apr 2005 14:33

:o
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Postby Mad Mick » 18 Apr 2005 18:50

Do you guys still have to wear donkey-jackets? :lol:
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Postby quicklocks » 19 Apr 2005 11:49

:D
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Postby Unlock-IT » 19 Apr 2005 12:20

I dare say if I look hard enough in one of the deep dark cupboard at home I could find you a donkey jacket if you want one Mad Mick!!!!!! lol. Although I don't suppose you need one where you live, its probably warmer there in the winter than it is here in the summer!!!!!!!
As for the high vis clothing we have now, It looks like we've been stood next to a neuclear power station for too long. The biggest problem is we can't do much hiding when we've got that clobber on, you can be seen a mile away......lol.......
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