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by **Gambit** » 19 Apr 2005 2:44

I read the MIT guide and yes i picked 3 locks but when i try to pick them again they wont open ...Where can i find the illustrated secrets to lock picking i want to download it on my PC for free seems like the places i have been just want to charge me an arm an a leg

by **WhiteHat** » 19 Apr 2005 2:52

we're not going to give you a free and illegal copy of this book that someone took ages to write - I deleted your last thread asking for the same thing, but obviously you're not getting the message...

you're just going to have to buy it or make do with the abundance of free and easily accessable information on this site, the MIT guide, matt blaze's pages etc. read through the FAQ's and then ask specific questions you have about lockpicking.

by **Gambit** » 19 Apr 2005 3:16

Merci beaucoup for ya wonderfull help mon ami

by **Addi** » 19 Apr 2005 10:03

french people arent that bad :roll:

they live just across the border from us..

uuum, dunno if this is illegal or sumthin but cant you just copy the infos from this site (the text) and just paste it as a word document...? thats what i would do...

Addi

by **master in training** » 19 Apr 2005 10:28

the text itself is copyright of the person who made the post and of LP101, each person would have to give their consent to their words being used anywhere other than the original post they made it in.

by **Vek** » 19 Apr 2005 11:10

If you want an illustrated guide, you could always go to www.howstuffworks.com and chcek out their lockpicking guide. It has pictures.

by **Kayvon** » 19 Apr 2005 14:16

Gambit wrote:Merci beaucoup for ya wonderfull help mon ami

I think it may be a reference to the X-men comic book series. I've never read it, though, so I could be off here.

Gambit, you'll find that the "Secrets to Lockpicking" booklet does not help you as much as you're hoping. Any useful material you would find in that booklet is freely available here in the forums. You've read the MIT guide, which is the best thing I could suggest. Try the FAQ also and skim through the forums to learn more.
If you're still stuck, feel free to tell us the types of locks you're trying to pick and what's going wrong.

by **maty68** » 20 Apr 2005 9:12

I cant understand how someones post could be copyright unless they underwent some legal process to do so. Anyone can quote what another says.

by **Chucklz** » 20 Apr 2005 9:36

In the US your creations are copyright unless you opt out.

This being said

by **maty68** » 20 Apr 2005 9:44

How can you copyright something without undergoing some kind of legal process. If this was this case then the words in your post can't be repeated by anyone else. I think i may have broken US copyright laws :cry:

by **Elijah** » 20 Apr 2005 9:53

It's reproducing and distributing that gets you in trouble, not quoting and discussing. It's true that the US does consider online posts copyrighted, as well as any text document you wrote that you've uploaded to the internet for viewing, but based on the fact that most people posting don't know this, I'd say you shouldnt worry too much about these copyright laws =)

-Elijah

by **maty68** » 20 Apr 2005 10:03

How can the US put a copyright on the ENGLISH language. I'm sure that some of the content of my posts or others have a structure or sequence that were not unlike or even exactly the same as portions of other posts or even any text content on the internet or other media. Is this considered an infringement on US copyright laws.

by **WhiteHat** » 20 Apr 2005 10:20

it's not copyright on the english language - just like it's not copyright on a brush and paint - , the artist uses the brush and paint to create a copyrightable work

english is the tool - the creation made by the person writing with the tool. the result is copyrightable. especially so if the writer describes a new idea or describes an existing idea in a particular way that has taken time and effort.

and as for the US imposing copyright laws on people from other countries.... well..... with the FTA that Aus has with the US, they can impose some of their laws here in exchange for us putting some of their farmers out of business.....don't know about the rest of the world but - let's stay non-political.... :roll:

by **maty68** » 20 Apr 2005 10:27

What i mean is, there should be a little less obscurity when speaking of copyright laws. Take for example any sequence of words:
'I Love Apples'
'I had pasta for lunch'
'My dog is dumb'
'Americans are dumb'
These words are used in many text scripts around the world without anyone giving a little thought to infingements.

by **Elijah** » 20 Apr 2005 11:57

It's not just any random chain of words, though. If you happened to say the same words as I did in a chatroom without knowing I said them, you wouldn't be in any trouble because it would have been your original thought and copyrighted to you and me alike. Common knowledge isn't exactly 'protected', nor are facts - you can copy them out of anyones work without being punished. That being said, two authors can have a copyright to the exact same words, so long as they created them independent of each other. Copyright infringement is based on the following:

1) Reproduction
2) Adaptation
3) Public Distribution
4) Public Adaptation

Unless you're doing one of those things (Without mentioning the original author) you are not committing copyright infringement. The public has a certain collection of rules by which they can use copyrighted material for their own purposes - these rules are called "Fair Use," and can be found here:

http://www.eff.org/cafe/gross1.html

This basically states that the public can reproduce copyrighted material for "fair uses" without mentioning the original author, and is the reason why you can burn a CD if you own the original, or why VHS and DVR players are legal.

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