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making a tubular lock pick?

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Postby Guesss » 7 Apr 2005 16:09

well i am thinking i could pick it pin by pin now that i own a lock... so here is my next question..

how could you make a tension wrench for this? I have heard that they are yout there and are kindof T looking but i was wondering if anyone had a picture of one that they have or have made... made preferably.

i am always learning from this site. Great group of people
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Postby stick » 7 Apr 2005 17:29

The other thread where we were talking about it, someone brought up the Lockpicking DIY cd. On it, the guy uses a tension tool shaped like this.

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Basically, one prong goes into the notch in the center post, and the other presses against a pin on the opposite side of that notch, allowing you to put a turning force on the lock. It'll only work on locks with that notch, and only if it's not recessed, meaning most bike locks are out of the question.
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Postby Guesss » 7 Apr 2005 17:40

This lock is one of those off of a pop style machins... it is actually a great learning lock for tubulars. i will have to see if i can find the site and post it on here. So i am not sure if what you are talking about will work or not? i will also try and post a pic on here of it if i can figure out how tha works.
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Postby Mad Mick » 7 Apr 2005 20:29

Guesss wrote:well i am thinking i could pick it pin by pin now that i own a lock... so here is my next question..

how could you make a tension wrench for this? I have heard that they are yout there and are kindof T looking but i was wondering if anyone had a picture of one that they have or have made... made preferably.

i am always learning from this site. Great group of people



You can make a perfect tension wrench for these locks, by grinding the sides of the short end of a small allen wrench, to snugly fit into the square notch in the centre of the plug. Another similar sized allen wrench, with the tip of the long end tapered to a point, is perfect for single picking the pins. Prepare to pick the pins multiple times though, as the pins reset every 1/8 turn. You will also have to pick the lock closed too.
Image If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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Postby Guesss » 7 Apr 2005 20:36

i was trying something similar with a wiper blade but i am thinking that those are going to be tough to get to work right. The allen wrench would be a good idea. The thickness of it would work well i think. I am goign to still tinker with the wiperblade idea but i may bave to go with the allen wrench.

Also i am curious if you do that method of wrench with the allen wrench... would taht work for all of them or are they all slightly different sizes and would i just be making a wrench to fit that one.

more thoughts?
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Postby Mad Mick » 7 Apr 2005 21:25

The wrench I have fits into the notch in all the tubulars I have. This is not to say that it will fit into all tubulars though.

It's unlikely that you will be able to make do with the wiper inserts for a tubular wrench...just get a cheap set of allen wrenches. You could grind a wiper insert to be adequately used for picking...or you could just use a bodkin needle (a thick, blunt needle your Gran used for mending holes in socks, etc.)
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Postby tarzan » 19 Apr 2005 5:52

Does anyone know where I could get a picture of a tubular lock that has been cut open (or see-through) so I can see the inside of the lock?

I just don't understand how the pins don't pop out. Are they fatter at the base or is it because half of the pin is caught under the lip of the lock? I vaguely remember seeing locks that did not have the lip and the pins were all exposed. Maybe I was dreaming. Anyway a picture would be great.

seeing is believing,

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Postby tarzan » 19 Apr 2005 6:32

Does anyone know where I could get a picture of a tubular lock that has been cut open (or see-through) so I can see the inside of the lock?

I just don't understand how the pins don't pop out. Are they fatter at the base or is it because half of the pin is caught under the lip of the lock? I vaguely remember seeing locks that did not have the lip and the pins were all exposed. Maybe I was dreaming. Anyway a picture would be great.

seeing is believing,

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Postby tarzan » 19 Apr 2005 6:33

I was only trying to post one message but for some reason it did 2... odd.. oh well

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Postby Guesss » 19 Apr 2005 10:12

there are clear tubulars out there.. google practice tubular locks. I ahve seen them but I do not remember where they were. As I understand it they are basically just like pin tumbulars and that is why they do not pop back out. The schere line holds them down.

there is my 2 cents for today.
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Postby tarzan » 20 Apr 2005 10:19

cheers for the info guesss, I'll have a look. I bet it's over priced though...
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Postby Guesss » 20 Apr 2005 10:21

i am sure it is... one thing i have found is that learning to pick isn't cheap
and that is sad cause i am broke
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Re: making a tubular lock pick?

Postby Peterbgood0 » 19 Nov 2008 8:22

try this link to learn how to make a tubular lock pick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNFYNq9Yp00
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Re: making a tubular lock pick?

Postby MisterQ » 29 Nov 2008 12:44

Here another concept for a homemade tubular pick.

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Re: making a tubular lock pick?

Postby monraet » 30 Nov 2008 18:21

Years ago the way to make a tubular lock pick was with a 3006 bullet shell and solder a short piece of paperclip inside.
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