need help with unexpected outcome

[vector40]

I'm a little confused. Why would a wafer come out with picking? Surely it's no more likely to do so than a pin tumbler -- if you leave off the tailpiece, you're SOL either way.

[rayman452]

Wafers come out if you pick the last wafer I believe. Either way, their easy to open, and easy to break if you pull them out. Thast only on certian wafers I find though. Its not going to happen on The Club which I picked, or my krypo bike lock. I cant really describe which ones come out, I just can see it and guess it.

[sublime progie]

really sorry rayman but i was double wrong. it is not a wafer lock it is just a regular pin tumbler. i just saw a wierd picture that made it look like it was. it looks just like the picture that db sent http://www.locksonline.co.uk/acatalog/NA580B.jpg


but a different model and proobably brand. it is a little old but by no means ancent. i am gonna get a new one to replace it but i would still like to fix this as i am still a fresh noob and i think it would be a good lesson to help me understand locksand more

sorry again rayman but you are still right in my eyes and thanks for the help karma ya know

[Chucklz]

I see two possibilities here

1.) The lock is a Schlage wafer lock. It has a "double sided key". Put the key in the plug, and then carefully depress any additional wafers sticking out, and slide the plug back in.

2.) You picked a 6 pin Kwikset lock..... that happens to have removeable cores. You need to pick the core again, to retract the metal bit, then you can slide it back into the lock.

[sublime progie]

ok if it is one of the two then it is 2 the hey is one sided as i use it to try and fix it. the metal bit you refered two has a pin in it and eventually i got the key stuck in from removing it but i luckily fixed it anyways. the bit as far as i could see is supose to latch behind a "metal frame" if you will and i doesnt seem like there is enough space to get the bit behind that frame because when i insert the hull and try to reset the pins the bit hits the frame and lont let me turn the core all the way back

thank you very much for finding the words i couldnt to explain this

[Chucklz]

Ahh, Okay this is what You need to do, if i can remember correctly. Insert the "working" key, and turn. In one direction it will hit a stop. You need to pick it and turn it past this stop to retract the control bit.

[digital_blue]

There may be an easier way, but if you take the whole doorknob off you will likely find that there is a long flat post that comes off the back of the cylinder that has to be retracted, or pulled out, in order to pop the lock back on (assuming that my initial assesment of what the problem is is correct... still unsure on that).

db

[Chucklz]

You should ask if they have the "special key" that came with their lock, if indeed it is a Kwikset. When you buy the lock, you get a key that can remove the core like you just did. It can also put it back in the lock.

[sublime progie]

db i believe you are right with your first description about popping off the face. (sorry again rayman) and i will have to try with the post thing

as far as the special key goes i will have to look for it and that would explain why it happened. i guess i met the shear line with like a spacer pick would any one agree with that synopsis? just to see if i am learning anything so far?

thanks again everyone

[digital_blue]

The only reason I figred that is what happened is because I've had to pop off the face of the Weiser Beverly's dozens of times to rekey them. Each and ever time I find it a total pain in the butt, and I have to fiddle with it to get it off and on. Have patience, and pay attention when you're working at it and I'm sure you'll get it.

db

[sublime progie]

thanks friend i will try i am out of school after monday so i will have plenty of free time and i have learned so far that everythinghere requires time

[raimundo]

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[raimundo]

perogie, a type of ukranian potato dumpling

[Buggs41]

perogie, a type of Ukrainian potato dumpling

And Ohhhhhh so delicious!

[Mad Mick]

A picture says a thousand words...although close to a thousand have probably been used by now here. (I'm not going to count them)

Take a pic of the lock from the front, showing the keyway.
Take another from the rear, showing the 'guts' which go into the knob.
Take another from the side.
Load them from the camera onto the PC.
Open up another browser window.
Go to www.photobucket.com and join up.
Upload your pics.
Create a reply to this thread, but leave it blank for now.
In the photobucket window, each pic will have 3 boxes beneath it.
Left click to highlight, then right-click the bottom one (the one starting with IMG) and hit copy.
Come back to the reply to this thread and hit paste.
Do the same for the remaining pic(s).
Hit submit.

Doing this will cut down on the speculation and an exact remedy will more than likely be offered.