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by ruski » 9 Feb 2005 20:50
Im not sure if this will work on all tubular locks, but I mananaged to open an ace and the cheap kingston microsaver lock.
1) I wrapped the aluminum around a bic pen
2) Thickness of 2-3
3) Than taped it off

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by Mr Ules » 9 Feb 2005 20:53
This method is less likely to work than if you had a tubular pick. This works on the same principal of the rake technique.
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by raimundo » 10 Feb 2005 11:11
back when the whole bic thing was being talked of, I read one case where something similiar was tried with a piece of cardboard and it worked also.
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by Grudge » 10 Feb 2005 11:27
Yep, pen shafts, pen caps, cardboard from thin boxes, toilet paper rolls and now aluminum cans. I even have had occasional luck with tightly rolled, small sheets of paper (like a few Postits). Its really a matter of finding something the right diameter and is reasonalby soft (for example, pens make of hard, translucent plastic don't work).
Makes me kinda of sad I spent money on those tubular picks 
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by ralphy » 21 May 2005 13:46
Hello,
I'm a compleet newbie at lockpicking, but I recently heard something about an easy way to open kingston laptop locks.
I'm a systemadministrator at a small company. Recently there were stolen a lot of desktop pc wich were secured with kingston locks.
I was very suprised to hear about a way to open these locks within a couple of seconds.
So now I'm looking for more information about the way they can open these locks without a key  in a couple of seconds. Can someone provide me with an how to / pictures / movie about this kind of lockpicking.
Thanks in advance.
Ralph
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by Ezer » 21 May 2005 13:54
Seems like you would want to know which locks can't be opened in a couple seconds.
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by MrB » 21 May 2005 14:56
Indeed. Shouldn't you be asking how to improve security with better locks?
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by ralphy » 21 May 2005 15:07
That's something I would also like to know, but first I need to show the "trick" to my boss so that he's convinced that we have a security leak.
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by MrB » 21 May 2005 15:20
I think if some computers were stolen, you already have proof of a security leak? I don't know about the Kingston lock you mention, but the Kensington Microsaver lock is about as secure as a piece of string.
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by ralphy » 21 May 2005 15:32
The kingston lock is pretty much the same as a Kensington lock.
They also took the cables so there no proof that they did not cut the cable.
I have found a video wich explains how to do it.
Now the only question that remains is wich cable to use so that it is more dificult to open without a key.
Regards Ralph
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by NKT » 22 May 2005 13:59
I showed this trick to the local computer shop, I demo'd it with a bit of parcel tape that I asked them for. The boss was rather interested, and I did it in two seconds! First time I've even tried to show it to someone, and it opened as if I had the key in it. I couldn't believe it.
Of course, I couldn't do it again. But the point was proven, and I told him he needed to keep an eye on the laptops, as those locks aren't nearly as secure as they seem.
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by TOWCH » 22 May 2005 15:40
Instead of using a cable with a built on lock which is bound to be crap, look for one with two loops and get a good padlock.
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by MrB » 22 May 2005 16:35
Once, at work, some people broke in during the evening to steal stuff. They evidently wanted to be in and out and gone in 60 seconds before the police arrived (there was an alarm and CCTV monitoring). What they did was pick up the laptops and yank really hard until the cable came away from the case. This of course badly damaged the laptop, but being brainless thieving scumbags, they didn't seem to care about that. Finesse was not in their vocabulary.
The moral of the story is that cables are not security. The first line of defence is building security, and the second line of defence is to have the computers bolted down inside a secure steel frame.
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by NKT » 22 May 2005 18:01
Door locks are little use during the day, and the alarms are off as people are in the room. Big steel cages hinder actual sale or demonstration of the laptop, too.
Most places recommend the Kensington security systems for preventing walk-in thefts during the day. The main issue is that a £1000 laptop can be gone in 60 seconds in plain daylight, and no-one even notices.
It gets much worse when the place isn't selling laptops, but is using them for work, as many thousands of pounds worth of knowledge and inside info can also walk out the door.
The average idiot flogging them isn't going to care, but who is to say it isn't industrial espionage?
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by stick » 22 May 2005 18:16
NKT wrote:many thousands of pounds worth of knowledge and inside info
My American ignorance made me think, "Wow, heavy laptop."
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