Yale 6 pin cylinder

[davetherave]

Hi All,

I've picked a whole load of cylinder locks now, both padlock and front door types. Most of them I can do in a few minutes. I've got one of the new Yale X5 front door cylinders, it has 6 pins and I'm getting nowhere with it. I know it can be picked as I took it along to the MLA expo in manchester and this guy did it in a few minutes. He used a small hook pick and a normal tension tool but when I try with the same tools it just doesn't happen, even if I spend hour after hour with it. Somebody mentioned "mushroom pins" Does anyone know what they are and how to get round this with traditional pcks?

Many thanks in advance.

Davetherave

[The Wanderer]

Greetings Dave. Your new, so I won't go on and on about your need to use the Search feature at the top of the page. I clicked on the search icon, and I typed in the word "mushroom" and got 264 possibles. Here are two of the better ones on the first of six pages from my search, that should help you with your question.

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Have fun with your lock. You have your hands full with that little beauty. Never say die!!!

[toomush2drink]

This thread is all about those little so and so's http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=2357&highlight=yale

[CaptHook]

This sounds like your first venture into the world of security pins...... Youll find it takes a little better touch and feel to "see" what you are doing inside the lock. Basically security pins are pins that give you the impression that the pinstack is in its correct spot. Its called false set. The other guy was able to pick it because he probably has a better sense of touch than you do at this point in time.
Dont give up, it takes practice.
Chuck

[Shrub]

I tend to find the security pins and over lift them and then let them drop back to the shear line,

Personally i can rake these open in less than 20 sec's but it takes a min or 2 to pin by pin pick them, a lock for the pick gun when on a job.

[davetherave]

Finally got through the bugger!

Many thanks for your help guys, In the end I used the small hook pin first then went back to the middle of the pins with a half diamond, All the time using a lot more tension than I normally would do. It feels to me that the security pins are on the top row of pins, that would also make sense with the overlifting tip. Is this true?

Also, what is the tool called that enables you to take the clip off the back and take the cylinder apart?

Thanks,

Davetherave

[Shrub]

The security pins can be as top or bottom pins, supprised more tension opend the lock, well done,

Without meaning to sound a git, the tool is called a pair of pliers, some people use circlip pliers but if it is not a circlip i use a long nose plier, circlip pliers are for circlips and nothing else but then again i do have the correct tool for everything