weiser locks

[sublime progie]

Anyone know anything about weiser locks. As far as I can tell they are just a regular dead bolt, but I was just curious if anyone has had experience with them.

[digital_blue]

Yes, much. Weiser are basically just a cheap lock not unlike a kwikset. They are a great starter lock, and are typically pretty easy to take apart and add/remove pins.

db

[sublime progie]

HeHe that is a little funny. the person i am staying with right now payed like $125 for her power lock weiser and she was extreamly proud of it until i showed her how quick it can be picked.

[digital_blue]

Yeah, she didn't pay for the high tolerances in the lock, she paid for all the fancy circuitry.

db

[AtomSphere]

Thats weird. I thought of weiser lock as a high quality lock that is hard to pick. I can pick typical pin locks on my room doors but i just can't pick weiser locks. Its very hard to set the top pins up there without the bottom pins getting stuck and i can't HEAR the pin very well and cannot get a good FEELING of the inside....

[digital_blue]

I suspect your problem is that you don't have a wide enough sample of Weiser locks. Occasionally, you will come across a Weiser that can be a bit tricky (relatively speaking). It is usually due to a pinning at or near MACS (a lot of High/Low combinations). Even still, they're not really all that hard, but a configuration like that can be a bit of a challenge for a novice picker. If you're getting the bottom pins stuck, you're actually oversetting pins. This will come as a result of one of two things:

1) You are lifting with too much force.
2) You are using too little tension.

Be careful with number 2 there. Most novice pickers make the mistake of applying too much tension, not too little. But, the less tension you use, the easier it is to accidently overset the pin.

So, start by ensuring that you are not lifting too hard. Use as little force as possible to lift to the shear line. If you're really having trouble with this, try adding a bit more tension. This will make it harder to overset, but can bring on a whole lot of other problems, so again, be careful with that approach.

Happy picking!

db

[Varjeal]

I would also guess that if a weiser is giving your problems, it is because you are trying to pick a lock that is fully-mounted (that's the deadbolt portion is also installed along with the lock *hopefully you've already been warned about picking a lock actually in use*).

The resistance of the bolt against the came can reduce feedback, and unless you have some experience with that, it can be frustrating. Trying taking the cylinder out of the lock and mounting it in a vise and picking it that way. Once you are familiar with the lock and how it needs to be picked try doing it so fully assembled once agian.

[frostbyte]

Haven't met an unmounted weiser I haven't picked. (Can't comment on mounted) They're normally quite far down the lock food chain.

[undeadspacehippie]

Wow all this weiser is easy talk is deflating my ego, I have a weiser that was pinned by a locksmith as a taunt. He gave me the complete apparatus, I have yet to mount it and pick it though, I now keep thinking its a fluke that I can open this thing as he told me it will keep me busy - but after this topic post i'm not sure. The handle is really hard to turn, sorta spongy. I'm waiting on a camera so I can post picks of my locks - no idea what series this weiser is.

[digital_blue]

Don't misunderstand. Weiser locks can be a bit of a challenge for a novice picker. But with practice, they will no longer pose as much a challenge... unless Varjeal sets them up for a test kit or competition. Then, for some reason I've still not figured out, Weisers can be ugly.

db

[Mr. Lock Pick]

weiser locks are cheap and vey easy to pick. i had one on my front door, i changed it becasue its over ease of picinkg

[digital_blue]

If you ever find yourself in my neck of the woods, look me up and I'll introduce you to a Weiser that's a real knucklebuster.

They can be a lot more challenging. Even in new condition and pinned to MACS made a big difference in the level of difficulty. The one in the LSI test kit (level 3, if I recall) was harder than most Weisers. If memory serves, my first attempt at that took over 3 minutes. That's a far cry from most Weisers I encounter.

But again, usually they're not a tough lock to pick.

db

[Bahrg]

I had a bugger of a time picking a weiser lock I use inside my house. Its basically used as a privacy lock since I dont have the key to it any longer. Its the first lock I tried picking and because of the reasons Varjeal stated, I had to use way more tension than I would have thought. Well sort of.... to initally pick it normal tension worked fine, then the plug would turn just a bit. I had thought it was because there were security pins in it. Wrong. Its just that as soon as the plug actually engaged the unlocking mechanism I had to use a lot of force to finish the unlocking.

Of course this lock is old much worn, and the body that the plug turns in(where the upper pins reside) is actually made of plastic.... that wont wear or deform or anything

When I took the lock apart and picked it unmounted it was so much easier.

[SeCToR9]

I have weisers on all my doors. when I was just starting lock picking,They were pretty tough, But now I can Pick them in about 15 seconds.....

I dont see why every one says to use more tension than usual.

I find it much easier when you use light tension (You kind of have to because of security pins)

[Blink]

I find it much easier when you use light tension (You kind of have to because of security pins)

Security pins? I've never encountered or seen a security pin in any Weiser I've ever picked, or re-keyed (except the ones I put spool pins in to practice).

What type of lock was it? KIK? Deadbolt?