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help with master lock

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

help with master lock

Postby twisted » 30 May 2005 14:07

im fairly new to picking but i can get disc tumblers and pin tumblers like the weiser 5 pin fine but i cant pick my master lock. its the silver and blue 0ne and it says no 3 on it. any sugesstions or help
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Postby zekeo » 30 May 2005 14:31

There have been many threads on this lock already, do a quick search for more detailed information.

You'll probably need more tension on the masterlock than on the weiser. Also try picking it both directions, as it will open either way. What specifically are you having problems with?
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Postby cracksman » 30 May 2005 17:21

I usually put my wrench in the bottom of the keyway and use it for the fulcrum for my pick. Masters seem to give a pretty good click for each pin you set. No. 1, 3, 5 are all good practice locks when you're starting out-good luck:)
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Postby mckutzy » 30 May 2005 19:49

im sorry to all the masterlock fans out there ( if any ) but the # 5 i found was the easyest to open in the series of laminated padlocks, not sure if it was the construction or what. the pin setting was quite eratic, not straight at all. keep trying
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Postby zekeo » 30 May 2005 20:14

I don't think you'll find any fans of the masterlock #5 here. They do make some other locks with security pins that make picking more difficult. As cracksman pointed out, it is a great lock to learn on.
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Postby cracksman » 30 May 2005 20:55

Lol, I'm a huge fan of the Master No. 5, here is my technique: I take the lock and tension wrench in my right hand, and I hold my "Peterson" hook in my right. I then look menacingly at the lock and say..."BOOO!!!!!", and the lock invariably opens, jumps out of my hand, and hides under the desk. now if that would only work on my "Brinks" :)'
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Postby zekeo » 31 May 2005 0:40

I've always used the stern glare with a disapproving shake of the finger...
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Postby sublime progie » 31 May 2005 1:32

you should try a oldie but goldie trick............


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Postby twisted » 31 May 2005 12:20

would the lock contain any spool pins or those pins with the lines cut in them so they get stuck on them?
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Postby zekeo » 31 May 2005 17:31

nope, no security pins in the #5.
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Postby Mad Mick » 31 May 2005 18:26

NONE IN #3 EITHER (SORRY FER SHOUTIN, BUT THESE STICKY KEYS HAVE STUCK!...LIKE LEARNING TO RIDE A BIKE AGAIN :oops: )
Image If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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Postby cracksman » 31 May 2005 19:38

here's a thought, Twisted, don't know if it well help. This may sound stupid but... if you or a friend can get the lock picked, (if you have the key use it for a guide, or "rake" the hell out of it), then without returning the keyway to the rest position,take a hook or half-diamond, and you can run it over the keys-they should already be set in the proper positions. The more time you can spend feeling the individual pins, where they set, the spacing etc. the better your "picture" will seem. -good luck :)
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Postby twisted » 31 May 2005 21:51

i finally got it to open today, and i was using too much tension to begin with, and now that i use lighter tension its easier to get.
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Postby master in training » 31 May 2005 22:20

a common mistake many people make is to use too much tension, it only takes a very small amount of tension, about the amount you need to turn the key, if you have the key to your practice lock, try putting the key in the lock and your tension wrench through the hole in the key, then see how much tension it takes to turn it, this is about the amount to use when picking. this is a tip i saw a while ago and i found it useful, it may not be good for you, but give it a try, it makes you see sometimes that you're using way too much tension.

good luck, congrats on picking the lock!

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Postby twisted » 2 Jun 2005 21:33

my dad also has another black #3 masterlock and i can still get mine but i cant get his to open. does anyone else notice that the pins seem to stick more in a master lock then normal?
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