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by Chrispy » 31 May 2005 20:56
I'd say it does depend on where you live, my neighbourhood is full of wafer lock garages primarily because they were mostly built almost 10-15 years ago.
Yet, if you head further into the city most garages are automatic roller doors because they are for apartment buildings. Yet again, the individual garage doors inside those apartment building garages are wafer locks.
To sum it up..... there are many types of garage door locks..... 
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by MrB » 31 May 2005 22:05
db, why does slab-on-grade construction make deadbolts difficult? Here in California (earthquake country) all houses have slab on grade construction, and there is no problem with fitting deadbolts to doors.
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by digital_blue » 1 Jun 2005 0:46
Yeah, I should clarify. Slab on grade, when combined with certain soil conditions (such as those found here on the prairies of Canada) make for diffcult situations. Soil which holds a lot of water (in my world, known as Manitoba Gumbo) has a capacity for greater movement. A slab on grade has the tendency to shift and move moreso than would an 8ft foundation. Of course, movement of the building equates to deadbolts which no longer close properly, or often stick.
This problem is of particular importance in conditions such as I see in Manitoba, though a slab on grade will likely see greater movement than an 8 ft foundation or even moreso, foundation on piles (20 friction piles, for example) in most any location. Of course, if you're pouring your pad on top of a solid rock foundation, the situation changes.
Add to the mix something that you don't often see in California - ground frost. All that moisture caught up in the soil expands when it freezes and leads to a heaving up of the ground. It is what often leads to sticky doors that change their character with seasonal changes.
Add all this up and you have a situation where putting a deadbolt on a garage causes more headaches than it prevents. And even if you do put a deadbolt, they are pretty easily defeated anyway by pretty near any teenage thug, let alone a seasoned professional thief.
So once again, I yell it from the rooftops... connect a monitored alarm to your garage if security is the key. I wouldn't worry too much about picking of the latch locks. And yes, for the record, they tend to be rediculously easy locks to pick.
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by ThE_MasteR » 1 Jun 2005 4:05
Nice to hear db that you work for garage doors.
Someone in my family has what you mentioned, when he sets the alarm, there are green invisible beams, and if you step on it, your screwed.
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by digital_blue » 1 Jun 2005 10:48
ThE_MasteR wrote:Someone in my family has what you mentioned, when he sets the alarm, there are green invisible beams, and if you step on it, your screwed.
 Cool. Very Ocean's 12.  Although I was moreso thinking about a basic magnetic contact switch on the pedestrian door, you could go to that extent I suppose.
Oh, and btw... what exactly does a "green invisible beam" look like?
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by ThE_MasteR » 1 Jun 2005 11:30
I am assuming it looks like that.. 
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by 79commando » 1 Jun 2005 14:48
Green and invisible! Is that the same as Bald with a centre parting? 
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by sublime progie » 1 Jun 2005 16:16
Yeah but in this case, as you say it's electric, even though you can unlock it, I don't think you can then open the door, because the gears of the motor are jammed..I am just assuming that's what would happenbut maybe I am wrong, correct me if I am
yeah taht is exactly right. if it is engaged to the electronic part then you dont need a lock. unless you can deadlift like 1500 lbs maybe. the reason mine has one is an electronic opener was installed after the house was built
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by ThE_MasteR » 1 Jun 2005 18:01
sublime progie wrote:Yeah but in this case, as you say it's electric, even though you can unlock it, I don't think you can then open the door, because the gears of the motor are jammed..I am just assuming that's what would happenbut maybe I am wrong, correct me if I am
yeah taht is exactly right. if it is engaged to the electronic part then you dont need a lock. unless you can deadlift like 1500 lbs maybe. the reason mine has one is an electronic opener was installed after the house was built
Tought so.
But why even though they know that wafer locks can easily be picked, they still put them on garage doors ? i mean a 3 second rake and you're hole garage is compromised..!!
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by ThE_MasteR » 1 Jun 2005 18:02
79commando wrote:Green and invisible! Is that the same as Bald with a centre parting? 
Kinda.. 
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by vector40 » 1 Jun 2005 18:54
Unfortunately ninjas can still somersault over the invisigreen lasers if their ki is sufficient.
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by ThE_MasteR » 1 Jun 2005 19:08
vector40 wrote:Unfortunately ninjas can still somersault over the invisigreen lasers if their ki is sufficient.
Rofl, well, in Ocean's Twelve, the french guy did it pretty easily, plus, they were even moving..!
Btw, what is "ki"
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by vector40 » 1 Jun 2005 19:28
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