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by GilbertGrape » 14 Apr 2004 23:06
I've never heard of an "Almont 're-key'" lock until tonite. I saw a fence that was locked up with one and thought to myself (i always find myself looking at locks as i walk by them....i think it might be an obsession, im sure you guys can relate), "Almont. Never heard of it. Must mean its really cheap or its super quality." Does anyone know about these. Are they anything that a beginner would be able to get, or are these compareable to a medeco and what-not?
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by plot » 15 Apr 2004 2:39
never heard of almont... but yes, my gaze always falls towards the lock, type, brand, etc. when i walk by them now... definatly an obsession. 
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by Varjeal » 15 Apr 2004 9:14
The all-famous Almont...well..picking 'em isn't bad, just avoid rekeying 'em. 
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by Illusive » 31 May 2004 22:45
so is this lock as difficult to pick as a medeco or such?
i came across the lock and now my mission is to pick this one open... its tricky though... tension dosnt seem to work both ways, although some pins set when i apply tension clockwise...
does anybody know if there are any security pins or such in the core? or of any other security methods put into the lock? im too curious...
btw i found the lock at a park, so i dont have a key and not only do i see this as a great challenge... but a rekeyable lock to practice with...
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by kuroikoshka » 31 May 2004 23:14
if most of the people on here pick locks for a hobby or occupation, would it be a good idea not to steal locks, so that hopefully, law enforcement officials will cut the hobbiest some slack in possessing lockpicks? don't steal the lock...
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by Illusive » 1 Jun 2004 18:06
no honostly...how could i steal the lock if i still cant open it? i wouldve had to pick it first... it was in the grass... my guess is one of the idot staff that work at the park dropped it or something...
i wouldnt go through the trouble of picking a lock...then keeping it... wouldnt it be considered evidence to a crime?
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by EricM » 27 Aug 2004 23:42
I know you wouldn't keep it but just the angel on the shoulder told me that if a police officer catches you picking a lock that is not yours and especially without permission even if it is a lonely lock in the park they will slap cuffs on you right quick. EVEN if you weren't going to steal it because the intent to open something that is not yours turns to intent automatically, which forgoes the ability to carry picks and not having them be tools of the thief trade.
 just giving a heads up, but you probably know that already. heh.
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by masterunlocked » 13 Jun 2005 15:28
Go to the United States Patent Office website uspto.gov and do a Patent Number Search for patent 3187525, which is available online for free. The patent gives drawings of the inside of the lock. Basically, there is nothing special to prevent the lock to being picked like any ordinary pin tumbler lock, and you should be able to rotate the cylinder of the picked lock to the removal position. Make a wire tool to retain the driver pins and springs as shown in the patent drawings. You should then be able to remove the cylinder and make a key. The Almont Re-Key keyways were available compatible with keys from several common manufacturers. My Almont takes a Schlage key. I was able to buy a blank key from a hardware store and file it to fit the Almont padlock that I found.
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by quickpicks » 13 Jun 2005 19:01
I saw a fence that was locked up with one and thought to myself.....
no honostly...how could i steal the lock if i still cant open it? i wouldve had to pick it first... it was in the grass... my guess is one of the idot staff that work at the park dropped it or something
And now its in the grass? I'm a little confused now, could you point me in the right direction?
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by lockedin » 13 Jun 2005 19:40
GilbertGrape wrote: (i always find myself looking at locks as i walk by them....i think it might be an obsession, im sure you guys can relate)
dude, the looking at locks thing I think is very common amongst us. My girlfriend used to wonder why I had fascination with looking at every lock I saw. I would just take a quick glance, but she thought it was odd before she got used to it.
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by quickpicks » 13 Jun 2005 19:42
I know. It just looked like GilbertGrape changed his story a bit.
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by digital_blue » 13 Jun 2005 20:04
Um... could that be because GilbertGrape was the OP, but you quoted Illusive? Different guy, different story?
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by quickpicks » 13 Jun 2005 20:19
Sorry for being stupid and not cheking 
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by zeke79 » 14 Jun 2005 8:23
If you are going to pick one that needs rekeyed, just make sure once you have turned the plug far enough it starts to come out you put it in a ziploc bag. I had to do several for a locksmith he had accumulated over the years and as Varjeal says rekeying isn't fun and requires an almont rekey kit which isnt bad to use after a couple times using it. I personally likes those little locks but I cant figure out why. Maybe it was all of the thought that went into designing them together in the first place.
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