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Is this a new method of cutting to code ON THE CHEAP

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Code keys

Postby pinpusher » 14 Jun 2005 13:53

SKS sells code keys at £9.60 a set and code sheets at £6.80 a series. Which makes it not cost effective to cut your own out of metal. To cut a key by code from the keys first determine the highest cut and cut the whole key to this depth. Change the key to the lower cuts as necessary and cut the remainder of the cuts. This is also handy to make a key for an existing cylinder that you do ont have the key for. Pick the cylinder or open by shimming, insert the code keys one by one to determine the code. Cut all cuts to the highest cut (as above) and then cut the remainder. Then finish off with a file as necessary. This is a cheap way of cutting keys to code, but you will need to buy a set of keys for each series of locks. Some manufactor's have more than one series make sure you're ordering the correct series! Also beware of numbers on keys as some locksmiths make up their own code.
E.g adding a number to the code 5 to 1st 4 to 2nd and so on, which is a good way of disguising numbers on your own master system.
Hope this has been some help to you.
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Postby Shrub » 15 Jun 2005 4:54

Thanks for that eddie, when i asked sks they didnt know what i was on about :roll:
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code keys

Postby pinpusher » 15 Jun 2005 6:02

Page 31 of SKS catalogue (2004) under heading of code & depth keys (ref OM60 for keys & OM61 for code sheets)
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Postby Shrub » 15 Jun 2005 6:11

Cheers mate,

I take it you have to use a cutter that will cut a 'V' to cut to code? i only have the other type at the moment (only cuts one side of the v if just pushed in)
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Code keys

Postby pinpusher » 15 Jun 2005 10:35

if Your machine can copy cylinder keys then you should be able to use the code keys.
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Postby Shrub » 16 Jun 2005 4:29

Fair enough but how do you get the form right?

My cutter is a dove tail so it only cuts an angle on one side and the other side is cut when you follow the form of the original key,

It was my understanding that to cut to code you would have to position the cutter in the correct place and then cut in without moving side to side, this can only be done with a symetrical cutter ie a 'v' cutter, as if i did this with mine i would get an angled side and a 90' side!!

Can you give me a bit of advice on how to do it with my cutter then as i cant work it out.
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Code keys

Postby pinpusher » 16 Jun 2005 6:34

the code keys are just keys each cut to one code each after cuting the blank to the highest cut (cut all cuts to this) You then cut cut the lower cuts follwing the V in the code key like copying a key.You shoud be able to get the bottom of the cut & up the other side of th V in the code key with Your cutter.With hand control froming the top of the V & finsh with file.
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Postby Shrub » 16 Jun 2005 10:39

I know what you are saying but i like to be a bit more accurite than that, the sks catalouge also says it is a must to have a v cutter, for the price of them i will just get another cutter and have no messing, thanks for the advice though,

As a side note to cut mortice keys to code i am making a depth micrometer fit the stylus holder so all i would have to do is set the mic to a chart i will make up to get the depths, in fact if im getting a v cutter i may as well make it fit that side as well, as the form is of no consequence.
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 16 Jun 2005 18:42

get a 1200 and a "
left hand insertion card A for horse shop stop" card.

cut anything as long as you know the depth and spacing

best card in the deck
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Postby Shrub » 17 Jun 2005 4:48

:shock: Sorry headhunter but youve lost me! is it just a code card? where do horses come into it? :?
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