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by Chrispy » 6 Jun 2005 17:15
I have a Kaba 8 cylinder that I found on the ground (score!  ) and was wondering if anyone had instructions/templates/pictures of their matador picks so that I may be able to make my own. I have been told that matador picks are used for dimple locks and would like to get started on attacking this Kaba. I haven't seen much on matador picks, but will keep searching.
Once again, any help is appreciated.
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by Chrispy » 6 Jun 2005 17:22
What material should I use? The ones featured in:
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=2980&start=15
look like regular hacksaw blades. How do you get the bends? High temp heating and bending I'm guessing.
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by Chrispy » 6 Jun 2005 17:24
I should've kept reading....  nevermind.  Anyone else have pics of their matadors?
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by digital_blue » 6 Jun 2005 17:29
As for the bends... the first one I made I used a torch to heat and then applied the bends just like that thread discusses. What I found works better tho, is to just heat the hacksaw blade to cherry red and air cool. This will make the metal flexible enough that you can form the shapes with needle nosed pliars. Once you've got the shape you want, heat to a straw colour and quench to put the hardness back in. Seems to have worked out pretty well for me.
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by Chrispy » 6 Jun 2005 17:36
Thanks db, will do!
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by Hojo » 7 Jun 2005 3:17
Yeah, I remember a while back I was making a "Matador Press" Of corse I never got around to finishing it, I will now and take some pictures...
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by raimundo » 7 Jun 2005 9:40
about getting the bends in a matador pick, each hump requires three bends quite close to each other, I remember seeing a picture probably on this site, where someone had a very nice solution to the bending problem, he had taken a large parallel jaw plier, and applied two loops of coathanger wire twisted tightly on one jaw of the plier, and on the other jaw he had put another loop of tightly twisted wire to fit exactly between the first two, so that when he clamped this down on flat steel, it made both the two upward bends and the over the hump bend. it was a neat solution. 
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by Jimmie » 7 Jun 2005 11:04
this was the idea of PICKPICK from germany
may be it's still in some 101forum
try a research
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by skold » 7 Jun 2005 16:14
Thats how i made mine..3 wires twisted onto a pair of pliers...really easy to make when using junior hacksaw blades
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by digital_blue » 7 Jun 2005 20:28
As I said, that is also how I made my first matador pick, but then found that softening the metal in the above metioned manner allowed me to make the bends with nothing more than needle-nosed pliars. I found I had better control over the bends and was less "under the gun" trying to implement the bend while the metal was cool rather than hot. One I got the bends just the way I wanted them, I hardened the metal and found that I had a very good tool. I really found the pliars and coat hanger just slowed me down.
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by Geek142 » 8 Jun 2005 4:55
I need to have ago at making them... i could just use my gas stove eh?
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by digital_blue » 8 Jun 2005 23:12
Geek142 wrote:I need to have ago at making them... i could just use my gas stove eh?
Yeah, you bet. Let us know how they work out.
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by Geek142 » 9 Jun 2005 3:01
Sure.. first ill get some juniour hacksaw blades.
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by n2oah » 10 Jun 2005 11:51
That set looks pretty good. I think I'll consider making a set of my own.h
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by lockedin » 15 Jun 2005 20:35
When do you think they'll actually start selling them online? Do they not sell them because they are new, or because they might open higher security locks?
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