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Security Pins

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Security Pins

Postby fixer » 14 Jun 2005 10:45

There have been questions on security pins, so I thought I would post a few pictures.

This first picture is of a mushroom pin from a Medeco lock.

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The next pins are a bottom pin and a driver from a Master lock.

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I hope this gives an idea of what you are dealing with. I will try to post more pictures as I come across other types of pin.
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Postby cracksman » 14 Jun 2005 11:58

here is a great link from crypto:

http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/lockpins/
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Postby Mad Mick » 14 Jun 2005 18:41

And here is a 3D model I did at the weekend:
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Left to right...1st is a spool pin. 2nd, a mushroom. 3rd, a serrated pin, and lastly...4th is a sleeved spool pin of unknown origin.
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Postby cracksman » 14 Jun 2005 19:25

Nice work Mick :o

The last one looks pretty intimidating :evil:

Any chance we could animate those to show how they work?

*we- meaning not me, I wouldn't know where to start :?
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Postby fixer » 15 Jun 2005 13:59

cracksman wrote:Any chance we could animate those to show how they work?


I think I have a picture somewhere of what happens when you try to pick a spool pin. I will try to post it.

Basically though, as you are applying tension to the plug, the gap in the security pin gives a false movement making you think you have found the shear line for that chamber.
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Postby digital_blue » 19 Jun 2005 18:57

Compliments of the talented and deticated Mad Mick, a video witha visual explaination of what is going on inside the lock while you pick a spool pin:

http://www.geocities.com/digital_blue_site/animation4.avi

Thanks Mick!

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Postby cracksman » 19 Jun 2005 20:10

Very nice Mick :shock:
I've been trying to visualize while picking spools- if a picture is worth a thousands words, well your animation is worth more :) , thanks keep them comin.
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Postby digital_blue » 20 Jun 2005 0:36

cracksman wrote:Very nice Mick :shock:
I've been trying to visualize while picking spools- if a picture is worth a thousands words, well your animation is worth more :) , thanks keep them comin.


Let's see here. Something like 28 frames per second. 5 seconds of video. 1000 words per picture... Mick, your work was worth... 140,000 words! Wow, and ppl say I talk a lot! ;)

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Postby Grudge » 20 Jun 2005 12:08

It's so hard to explain to people how a spool will cause the cylinder to rotate backwards as you lift it. In the video it is easy to see. Great job :!:
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Postby Laconfir » 21 Jun 2005 17:56

Was there supposed to be sound? I didn't hear anything. Meh, it really helps though, nice work on the video.
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Postby cracksman » 21 Jun 2005 19:12

Hey Mick, any chance we can get more animations?

I think he deserves a Lp101 T-shirt for that one :)
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Postby Mad Mick » 21 Jun 2005 21:41

Laconfir wrote:Was there supposed to be sound?


I recorded myself saying "Click", but it sounded silly :oops: (J/K).
OK, there's no sound, but it's not really needed anyway and would have just bloated the file size. Some of us are still on 56k...DSL pricing is still ridiculous in areas without healthy competition. :cry:

cracksman wrote:Hey Mick, any chance we can get more animations?


Plugging away at the weekends (pun intended :lol: )

Thanks for the appreciation guys.
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Postby Minion » 1 Jul 2005 12:36

Hey mad mick, I was referred to this post from one of mine in Pick Fu. I noticed that you do some 3d animation, and that's just one of my hobbies that I partake in. Sorry for dragging up the old post, but I'm really curious as to how you got the spring to bend like that (I'm a superb amateur). Was it just keyframed?

I currently use Maya 6 for all of my 3d stuff, here's a little example

http://minion.jrbach.com/hi-resphone.jpg
http://www.binrev.com/forums/index.php? ... post&id=79
http://minion.jrbach.com/linez.avi

If you could message me on aim (minionqb), that'd be great. Then I could help with 3d models and such as well.
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Postby Mad Mick » 1 Jul 2005 19:22

Minion:
PM sent.
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Postby Minion » 2 Jul 2005 14:40

Thanks, You've one as well. :)
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