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Jacked Engine

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby Jacked Engine » 6 Jul 2005 16:29

Heres my story:

So I had a brand new 15 hp Merc 4 Stroke outboard engine, and somebody decided to steal it by cutting off the padlocks. So after 3 weeks of dealing with the insurance company I would like to ensure that this engine and boat never gets messed with agian. So I have a question for you folks, being the experts of this field, what lock (padlock, or what have you) is the going to be my best bet to deture these guys? I am intrested in not only a lock for the engine, but also for locking the boat to my dock. I have a large chain for the front of the boat, that would be hard to get through with any bolt cutters, I just need a decent lock that can keep up with it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks a lot!
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Postby kspec » 6 Jul 2005 20:07

a lock with a closed shackle would help out alot from the bolt cutters.

here is a few links on some locks and such that should help you decide what you think is best


www.abus.com - look at object type

http://www.americanlocks.com/item1.asp?int_ID=89-for marine type conditions

hope this helps you if not call your local lockie
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Postby cracksman » 6 Jul 2005 20:39

Did they cut the padlocks or the chain? There are actually locks made by many manufacurers specifically made for marine use, do a google search, I came up with this with a quick check: http://www.ahoycaptain.com/shop/locks.html Look at the Abus Discus, I have one, it is tough to pick and has it's shackle shrouded.

Whatever you buy, make sure that the shackle is shrouded, this will prevent people getting bolt cutters in there. Also, make sure any chain or cable is thick enough and high enough quality.
Hope that helps :)
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Postby n2oah » 6 Jul 2005 21:01

I highly recommend medeco's System series padlock. It looks like this:

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Here is the information page:(1st one down)
http://www.padlocksunlimited.com/products/medeco.html

It's got a cover over the cylinder so no water/debris will get inside. If you want a cheaper alternative, you could always go for a master pro series.
"Lockpicking is what robbing is all about!" says Jim King.
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Postby rayman452 » 6 Jul 2005 21:13

They use those Medeco locks at Paramount Canada's Wonderland to close the gates that yuo could jump over. Moral of the story? Lockpickign has turned me into a sad looser...
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ke ke, now Im special...
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Postby Shrub » 7 Jul 2005 6:15

Have a good look at the rest of your security, if it was me for a start i would be taking part of the electronics or engine with me each time i left it so it cant be started, i would then bolt an alarm in a steel case to the floor (perhaps under a seat) so when activated a loud siren is set off but the theives cant get at it, i would then be looking at the possability of a tracking system, locks only keep honest people out, if you upgrade your chains and locks they will either just cut them off with a grinder or rip out the lugs you are morring with (dont forget they will only be either laminated into the deck or just bolted on the top) it would be difficult to do but ive seen boats that have had the mooring lugs chiseled off with a portable jack hammer!!!

Chaining it up with neibours boats also adds to security as well as morring it the wrong way round if in a jetty.
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Postby helix » 7 Jul 2005 11:27

Shrub wrote: i would be taking part of the electronics or engine with me each time i left it so it cant be started


Do boats have rotor buttons?
If they do, it will be under the distributor cap.
Take that out and the boat will go nowhere.
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Postby Shrub » 8 Jul 2005 4:55

I would imagine they are all fuel injected now but if its an old boat then yes you could just take the rotor points off but some dizzy caps are bolted down and it may be difficult to get off time and time again, its somthing i wouldnt be disturbing on a regular basis,

A fuel cut off or power cut off should suffice but of course i have been summiseing that it was stolen from the water, reading again it may just as easy have been stolen from the driveway on a trailer in which a immobilisation of the boat would be pointless.

If thats the case just take the wheels off the trailer and chain them up elsewhere, even if they cut the chain and reattach the wheels, they are theives not grand prix mechanics (sore subject for you accross the pond :P ) so will take some sort of time to reattach them which could mean the differance between being spotted by a neibour and getting away with it.
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Postby Chrispy » 8 Jul 2005 15:31

Sorry, completely off topic..... Shrub, 7/7/05 R.I.P?
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Postby Ezer » 8 Jul 2005 15:44

Chrispy wrote:Sorry, completely off topic..... Shrub, 7/7/05 R.I.P?


July 7, 2005 Rest In Peace http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4661059.stm
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Postby Chrispy » 8 Jul 2005 15:46

Yeah, as soon as I posted I remembered that Shrub is from the UK. Sorry for the mind blank.
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Postby Shrub » 9 Jul 2005 4:10

No worries,

I got a very good freind that has been seriously injured and i heard about it when i was on here, i felt i had to give it some mention somewhere,

Sorry for any confusion.
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Postby vector40 » 9 Jul 2005 4:43

Anyone have a link to that TNL web article where they tried to abuse the locksmith-quality padlocks?
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Postby Shrub » 9 Jul 2005 4:57

Sounds like somthing chucklz might have :wink:
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