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Question about progression of difficulty

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Question about progression of difficulty

Postby bitpusher » 4 Jul 2005 12:55

I have been having great success, and fun, picking the dead bolt, in-knob, generic, and brand name padlocks around the house.

My question is: what is the order of progressive difficulty for locks, both for locks themselves, and the mechanisms that make them more difficult to pick?

In other words, what type of security pins (or combinations thereof) are easer/harder to pick? And in what order should I tackle high security locks?

So far I have picked (in order of difficulty):
Generic padlock
Generic in-knob
Kwickset dead bolt
Master padlock
Brinks padlock

What should I go for next?

Thanks to all who have contributed to this forum, happy picking!
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Postby hzatorsk » 4 Jul 2005 13:06

Well... I suppose you might offer what is available to you.

I could suggest lots of locks, but I don't know if you could get your hands on locks such as a Schlage cylinder, a Best IC padlock or cylinder, a safe deposit box style lever lock, a kaba dimple lock or perhaps an Abloy disc lock.

Even within one company there are various levels of difficulty. A standard residental Schlage will yield much easier than their commercial offerings.

How about you hunt around your hardware store (and perhaps ebay) and give us a shopping list of what you can find/afford. We'll tell you what we think of those.

Cheers

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Postby zekeo » 4 Jul 2005 13:08

I think your next step is a high quality deadbolt. Try a schlage. The higher tolerances in these locks make them more difficult. After you can consistantly pick these, it's time to tackle security pins. I don't think there's any particular order to do this in, just try whatever you can get your hands on. Just like you originally learned to pick, the best way is to start with one spool (or something else) and work your way up.
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Postby bitpusher » 4 Jul 2005 16:57

Thanks for the info. Next time I am at the hardware store I'll look into a Schlage deadbolt.

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Postby Mad Mick » 4 Jul 2005 18:02

Fill in your profile, this way you will get specific information pertaining to your geographical location. :wink:

I'm guessing you are in the US, but could be wrong. :?

Regards.
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Postby fixer » 5 Jul 2005 6:57

If you go to the hardware store to get a lock, look through the plastic packaging and find the key. Even in the 'easy' category, it is more difficult to pick a lock that has larger variation in the cuts on the key.

While you are in the store, pick up a short length of 1/2" dowel so you can make yourself a follower for dissasembling locks.
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Postby Geek142 » 5 Jul 2005 7:13

Hey...

If you have lockwoods in your area get a lockwood 120/30. Has spools and should provide you with some challenge. Search the site for "security pins"

Goodluck

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Postby fugi » 8 Jul 2005 10:25

if you want something harder to pick, re ping that kwikset deadbolt. in front put a couple that set shallow so they stick into the keyway when set, and in the back put some that set deep. or do alternating very deep and shallow. you'll get to use various snakes and saw looking picks on that setup. or slip a serrated or mushroom pin in there. or you could always get a file and some blanks and try your hand at impressioning?
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Postby fugi » 8 Jul 2005 10:26

pin, not ping.
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Postby nosferatu » 22 Jul 2005 15:13

so padlocks are too easy for u ? :roll:
try ABUS padlocks ! :twisted:
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Postby randmguy » 22 Jul 2005 18:35

I'd advise getting a Schlage deadbolt and buying one of the little repinning kits available at Home De(s)pot or Menards...If you want something portable, the Abus 83 series is available in just about any keyway you can imagine.
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