Raimundo's Bogota "How to" documents

by **sportsguy** » 13 Jul 2005 14:48

Oh, gawd darnit! Now I'M thinking of making a pick or two of my own. Oh yeah, my wife is going to LOVE this...LOL

by **Orange_Crusader** » 14 Jul 2005 13:22

Wait. Scratch that.

A peak to peak distance of 3.9mm would have one pin in each valley, and none on the peaks, or vice versa. Make that 7.8mm peak to peak, or 0.312" for you Imperical guys. I'll start right now, got the wiper inserts cleaned off, and various files lined up. Will scan them in when done, making a hook and one 3-peaked bogota.

My 7.9mm (5/16") file if just about perfect for this. It'll take a bit of work to give it a nice curve on the valleys, but I've got all day, so...

Meanwhile, it's thundering like crazy, I'll go and get working.

by **steel blade** » 14 Jul 2005 17:00

orange_crusader

Hi. I just measured the set I got from Raimundo recently and they seem to be about 6.1m.m. peak to peak. Hope this helps, and best of luck with your pick making. They are harder to make than they look! :roll:

s.b.

by **Orange_Crusader** » 15 Jul 2005 11:25

Thanks, steel blade.

6.1mm sounds easy enough to do, it'll take a lot of work with oddly shaped files (I lack a small enough circular file to do the entire cuts), but I've got all day.

Yesterday, I whipped together a few picks (a really nice half diamond, double-ended snake, another sawtooth rake), along with an experimental Bogota. I filed it way too thin, although the shape is right. It looks a bit odd, since the peak-to-peak distance is about 2mm too big. It works, but it looks too thin and weak for my tastes, I'll get going on the second piece today.

My one semi-failed attempt took about half an hour, without sanding, and I expect this one to take longer, since I have to use non-circular files to make circular cuts. Blister-ville, here I come!

by **raimundo** » 15 Jul 2005 13:45

I use the quarter inch chainsaw sharpening file, and sometimes I make it cut a larger valley by leaning to the sides when filing. (more pressure to the side of the cut than at the bottom.) the spacing is not rocket science, A pin on each peak and a pin in the valley would do, but locks come in various sizes too. If you make a good copy and sand it well, I think it should work. also, if you think you made one too thin, finish it anyway, and it might become your favorite pick for difficult keyways.

by **steel blade** » 15 Jul 2005 16:11

Hi Raimundo,

So thats how you do it with the chainsaw file. I thought mine was too small. Ah well, that saves me from buying a new file.

I've made a few bogota sets and however badly I make them, they still open locks. I even made a tiny one and it works great.

I just polish them as you say and keep them for later.

thanks

s.b.

by **MeRZHiN** » 15 Jul 2005 16:51

you guys have no idea how much i want to make one

i might just do it, if i ever get the time

by **steel blade** » 15 Jul 2005 18:02

Make the time.

How much T.V. do tou watch?

Watch less!

s.b.

by **MeRZHiN** » 16 Jul 2005 0:00

i never watch tv

it's not even plugged in

. but the thing is that i have to go to my uncle for quite a long time to make them. since i don't have the tools to do it. so i'm going to buy a dremel first and then i'll see what i'll do

by **steel blade** » 16 Jul 2005 14:25

MeRZHiN,

I was just joking about the T.V. (no offense intended) :oops:

What I meant to say, was like everyone else we all have a lot of demands on our time. To make lock picks, very often we have to give something else up.

How much time we spend watching T.V. is our own business.

I know it is hard without the tools and I hope you manage to get your dremel and get started soon.

When I started I used a set of needle files and a small vice I had bought from a Â£1 Shop and I made quite a good set of picks out of wiper blades and street-cleaner bristles. It was a good way to start and when I got my dremel and bench grinder I appreciated them more.

Rather than wait, work with what you have.

Best of luck, but remember Raimundo does not use any power tools.

regards

s.b.

by **yofu** » 20 Jul 2005 14:51

i may sound like an idiot but what the hell are sweeper bristles? just the like...bristly things that come off the bottom of a broom? and are they made of metal cause ive never seen any metal ones.

by **Chrispy** » 20 Jul 2005 17:41

They are from street cleaning vehicles, mostly used by councils to.... clean streets.

by **steel blade** » 20 Jul 2005 17:54

Yofu, Hi,

Yes they are steel, a lot of street cleaners use plastic for the pavements (sidewalks to our American friends) but the roadsweepers use the metal brushes for the road edges.

regards
s.b.

by **savior** » 21 Jul 2005 4:22

ah yeah, i've seen those little metal blades in the gutter before, didn't know what they were from, or what i could use them for... i'm gonna look for those from now on, and follow sweepers whenever i see em!

by **yofu** » 21 Jul 2005 9:11

hmm...i dont think i've ever seen a sweeper bristle before...maybe its a UK thing? hha well ill look for them next time im out walking on the street...if that fails ill use windshield wiper things.

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