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HELP...broken key...

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HELP...broken key...

Postby n2oah » 18 Jul 2005 15:50

So I have this key-in-knob lock but I broke the key, there is a chance to get the key out, though. The key is broken off flush with the plug, but there is an anti-drill hole ( the beveled things)that I can fit a small pliers in. I tried and tried, but I couldn't get the key out, I also tried using a bit of lubricant to loosen the key from the plug. I still can't get it out. Should I take it to a professional locksmith, I don't want the lock to become unusable.
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Postby Santos718 » 18 Jul 2005 15:54

A key extractor pick didn't come with your set? It should have. Just use that.
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Postby n2oah » 18 Jul 2005 16:33

A key extractor is of little use in this situation.
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Postby quicklocks » 18 Jul 2005 16:41

try sliding a coping saw blade own the side of the key or a bit of shim cut like a barbed spear :?
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Postby Chrispy » 18 Jul 2005 16:43

Try a paperclip that has a small cut in the end to create a tooth to try and grab the shoulder. Or if there is seriously no room, grind the paperclip down to what it needs to be (with tooth cut on the end) to get into the keyway along with the broken blade and try that.
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Postby fixer » 18 Jul 2005 17:16

Can you get the cylinder out of the knob?

If so, you can remove the tailpiece and push the key out from the back.

To remove alot of kik cylinders, you need to turn the key in order to depress the button and pull off the knob. Some more detail on the manufacturer of the lockset would allow us to give you more detailed information.
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Postby zekeo » 18 Jul 2005 22:02

I assume this was the proper key for the lock... if it was, use whatever you can to unlock and disassemble the lock and push out from the back as fixer says. The same thing happened to me not too long ago. My friendly local lockie made me a new key from the broken one in no time.
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Postby n2oah » 18 Jul 2005 23:30

I will try to get some pictures as soon as possible.
Yes, it is the correct key, but I have about 4 more keys for it.
However, I am not fimiliar with key-in-knob locks, so I don't know how to disassemble the lock.
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Postby vector40 » 19 Jul 2005 1:08

Anti-drill hole? Beveled thing?
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Postby n2oah » 19 Jul 2005 10:20

I was talking about the part that is beveled so the drill bit "walks", not destroying any of the pins.
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Postby n2oah » 19 Jul 2005 11:00

Finally...pictures...

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Postby Pickety » 19 Jul 2005 11:12

Hmm, it looks a bit strict on space...but as the others have said a key extractor should work. If not, then you can try tokm homemade tools. You could dab some superglue on the end of the broken key and a few toothpicks and try to pull them out like that. Or you apply the glue to the tip of a philips and try to pull it out...
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Postby n2oah » 19 Jul 2005 11:22

Pickety wrote:You could dab some superglue on the end of the broken key and a few toothpicks and try to pull them out like that. Or you apply the glue to the tip of a philips and try to pull it out...


Already tried that :(

Does anyone know how to remove the cylinder from it?
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Postby Shrub » 19 Jul 2005 12:06

See the tail piece? slide a paper clip or a pick or somthing that will fit, down the side of it, then push the key out, if you are lucky this will work and you wont have to strip it down.

Look at you problem and think about it, a key extracter will get it out if you know how to use one, pushing it from the back will also work if you can do it while its together even better if not then pull it apart,

It looks to me like you need to slightly twist the tabs back and then remove that back plate, the tail should then come out and you should be able to push the key out, dont turn the plug or else when you go to push the key out you will push the plug as well.

Have a read up on re pinning cylinders and dont be frightened of having a go, dont force anything and you will be ok.
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Postby funboy79015 » 19 Jul 2005 12:59

n2oah wrote:
Pickety wrote:You could dab some superglue on the end of the broken key and a few toothpicks and try to pull them out like that. Or you apply the glue to the tip of a philips and try to pull it out...


Already tried that :(

Hopefully when you tried this you didn't accidently glue the key in the lock.
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