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First Home made pick Help

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

First Home made pick Help

Postby Shadowx » 21 Jul 2005 15:13

OK I think my pick it done and I want to post a picture of it. Unfortunately I am a dumbass and don't know how to do this. I have the pictures on mypc and just need to know how to post it here through some website. Help would be greatly appreciated thank you.
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Postby Santos718 » 21 Jul 2005 15:22

use photobucket or send me the file through MSN. If uploaded use this template:

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Postby Shadowx » 21 Jul 2005 15:44

I sent santos an e-mail with the picks I guessw we'll see if he can link them.
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Postby Santos718 » 21 Jul 2005 15:46

Here they are.

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Postby Shadowx » 21 Jul 2005 15:58

Sweet thanks alot, now do you have any suggestions on the design of the hacksaw blade pick? How should I tweak it to make it a good hook type pick? Also The brass bent thing with tape around it is what i am using for torque and the thin straight thing is a blow gun wire dart which I put a small bend in the tip but it is a little flexy. The thing with a loop in it is a retainer key- could I make a wrench out of that? And also i am not quite clear on how to make a rench out of the allen wrench could someone tell me how i might do this. Thank you all for your time and thank you again santos for the generous help.
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Postby Chrispy » 21 Jul 2005 16:30

The hacksaw blade pick is good, well done. It's fine how it is, it doesn't need tweaking.

The other items (although you get points for magyverness :P ) are not the best things to use for tension wrenches.

With the allen key, simply grind down the head to the desired length and width and that's it. I suggest grinding the head so that when it's inserted into the keyway, the handle points to 3 o'clock rather than 6 o'clock. You'll see what I mean. :wink:
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Postby cracksman » 21 Jul 2005 16:39

The hook seems nice, some high grit sandpaper to make it shiny wouldn't hurt, if you can insert it into your lock and maneuver all of the pins then I wouldn't change anything. As for the allen wrench, you just want to grind down the short end so it is flat enough to fit in the keyway, I can't seem to find mine but if I do I'll post a pic. Just file it gradually until it fits. As for the plastic knife, I can't think of a wise-ass comment right now so I'll leave that alone :P

Nice work, the allen wrench and the hook will enable you to open many 4-5 pins lock with practice, you may want to make a smaller version to fit tighter thinner keyways as you progress.

*how come hey can say dumbass but I can't say wise-a s s :)
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Postby Shadowx » 21 Jul 2005 16:49

Why three oclock? Also I reall y am interested in what you think of the shape of the tip of the pick. Should I do anything to make it more effective? Should the tang be longer?
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Postby Shadowx » 21 Jul 2005 16:53

Thank you cracksman. I would like more bposts like yours. The knife was just for size comparison lol. Why only 4-5 pin locks? I have a lock here on a desk in my store. Above the key hole it says

6

750

Could the 6 be referring to the # of pins or not?
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Postby Chrispy » 21 Jul 2005 17:38

Shadowx wrote:Why only 4-5 pin locks? I have a lock here on a desk in my store. Above the key hole it says

6

750

Could the 6 be referring to the # of pins or not?


No. :P Most desk locks are wafer locks anway. Locks with more than 5 pins are usually high security (higher than 5 anyway :P ) or master keyed locks, not desk drawers.
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Postby cracksman » 21 Jul 2005 18:29

I think what you might be looking for is that "perfect" magical pick, unfortunately, there isn't one (cordless rotary pick excluded :? ). The key to the pick is that it can manipulate a single pin with little or no disturbance to others (rakes excluded obviously). I personally use the Falle-type curved picks almost exclusively, and they are really a very simple design, however I still need 3, 2 sided picks to open all of the locks I own, as well as a Peterson slim-gem. I would just experiment, there is no perfect pick or we would all have them :)
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Postby Shadowx » 21 Jul 2005 19:12

Yes I ment to ay could the 6 be wafers but can't I pick wafers with a hook or do you need a ball or half ball? I am not looking for a magical pick lol. What I am looking for is a reason why I can't pick anything besides 4-5 pin locks. The lock to the back of my garage must be at least 6 pins because after giving up and letting the tension go I herd at least 5 or 6 clicks. What is the best way to count pins?

I turned a lock after picking it but it only went about 45 degrees then stopped. I was turning it the right way- what happened?

On a seperate lock I picked it but applied pressure in the wrong direction. It turned 90 degrees and would not go farther because I was truning it clockwise. Does this mean I picked it right and the only thing I did wrong was the way I turned it or what?

Thank you
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Postby Chrispy » 21 Jul 2005 19:44

Shadowx wrote:What is the best way to count pins?

Use a feeler pick and insert it all the way into the plug until it hits the back. Lift all the pins and slowly withdraw the pick, counting as you go. Or, you can dismantle every lock you come across.... :shock:

[quote="Shadowx"I turned a lock after picking it but it only went about 45 degrees then stopped. I was turning it the right way- what happened?[/quote]
Hmmm.... spools usually don't turn the plug 45 degrees (usually a lot less, 5-10 degrees). Not enough tension maybe?

[quote="Shadowx"]On a seperate lock I picked it but applied pressure in the wrong direction. It turned 90 degrees and would not go farther because I was truning it clockwise. Does this mean I picked it right and the only thing I did wrong was the way I turned it or what?[/quote]
Clockwise is normally the right way to turn a plug. Could you still turn it back to its normal position?
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Postby Santos718 » 21 Jul 2005 22:25

Here's the other one shadowx.

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Postby Shadowx » 22 Jul 2005 14:30

What do you mean by spools? I thought I picked it but I couldn't turn it all the way.
Yes I could turn it back to the normal position, it wasn't broken or anything but it would not turn all the way to open the lock. This was a door on my house and my front door turns counter clockwise, I know because I tested it with the key. Still why can't I pick a 6 + pin lock with this? Also is raking or scrubbing easier than single picking?
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