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by **sillyboy** » 28 Jul 2005 0:29

Wow 2 different topics and already I am getting ganged up on? The soup reference was a simlie as to how useless my attempt at making a practise lock was. Now are you guys gonna play nice or do i take my talents elsewhere??? You know this isnt a pissing contest right

by **Ezer** » 28 Jul 2005 4:19

I have seen many people now get upset with the reception they find here. Sillyboy, you have to understand that this is an internet site populated mainly by males of all ages that covers skill based and security related topics. First of all what isn't to some extent a "pissing contest" when it comes to guys? Even when completely good natured, we're guys. What do you expect?

Also this is the internet. Newbs will most likely be messed with. It's the same as in life. When a group of people are used to each other and a new person shows up, some ribbing is to be expected. It can show what type of person they are or maybe why they are really there. You might have great amounts of skills or knowledge. It honestly doesn't matter here or in life. All with good intent are welcome here. What matters is how you present yourself to people.

Lastly about you're spelling. What is discussed here is a topic that we care about, and one that can be used inappropriately by some, which then makes us all look bad. We already take enough flack from people as it is. So even the hobbyist here like to come off as somewhat "professional." So misspelling a word such as tension is not a mortal sin, but you have to see how that is not going to present an image of great knowledge of this topic, regardless of how much really know or don't. Anyways as soon as you chose you're screen name, you set yourself up for some ribbing.

Now if all you're thinking is, f*** these people for not phearing my leet skillz. Yes, please take your talent elsewhere. Otherwise, welcome to the site.

by **sillyboy** » 28 Jul 2005 4:24

Hey Ezer

fair comment my friend.... maybe I was being thinned skinned. Thanks for the welcome. I will try to be consistent with the speling. No hard feelings

by **sillyboy** » 28 Jul 2005 4:25

.... i did it again speling should be SPELLING

Making a concerted effort to better myself

by **sublime progie** » 28 Jul 2005 6:08

1 my statement about your soup was shear sarcasm.

2as far as i have seen, you have not shown me any of your talents. all i have seen is you regurgitating the same sentance, and saying a bunch of things that aren't really all that true. someone read all his posts and disagree please

basically if you are just saying something and you arent a 100% sure on it, say so or even better try it. that way if it doesn't work you can still share knowlege in a positive way and somone else may even be able to help you impprove your idea.

by **sillyboy** » 28 Jul 2005 6:11

Sublime... point taken

I'm just here to help, dont wanna come across as a smart ass its just that .... well locks are just my thing, I have a talent with them, I will help you out anyway I can. Look forward to seeing you on board mate

by **vector40** » 28 Jul 2005 18:45

I've made two cutaway practice locks using a Dremel. I would highly recommend it for beginners and as an instructional aid -- you (1) learn the theory more easily, and (2) learn to associate certain behavior, feelings, and sounds with certain actual movement within the lock. It's also good for "troubleshooting," even for experienced pickers (the old "why isn't this opening?!" issue).

Obviously it's neither necessary nor necessarily beneficial to everyone. But so goes most of life.

by **pretender** » 28 Jul 2005 19:02

something that helped me a *lot* was to make my own relatively thin hook/feeler pick.

the southord shallow hook i used previously and even a marginally thicker stainless one i made now seems like a pipe wrench for pin by pin picking methods.

when you can feel the click like that it's a lot easier to figure out the theory, and pretty gratifying to boot. not the best for all locks, but when you want to get a tactile sense of the whole shebang, it can't be beat, imo.

by **Minion** » 29 Jul 2005 3:56

Sublime, buying a clear lock would be almost exactly the same as having a cut away lock, just that the part that's cut away is clear polymer and you can't access the pins. If you look at the cut away locks, you can see everything that happens just as if it was a clear lock. No point in spending extra money for a clear lock when cut away metal locks are the same thing

Then again, this is all my opinion, so you should feel free to disagree with everything

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