barrel lock

[tshock]

I have recently obtained a barrel lock (like you would see on a utility box) and have no idea how to pick it. does anyone know how to pick them or have a picture of the tool to use? And I tried google and the search feature.

Thanks
heres a picture of a barrel lock similar to mine

[raimundo]

Are you certain that is a lock, not a type of seal that requires some sort of breakage to open, (looks a bit like a type of seal the gas company puts on valves to detect tampering) Is there a round hole in the end, sometimes theres a tool that reaches in and pulls in 4 quarter circle grips that spring outward to lock into a groove, try the barrel of a metal parker pen.

[Minion]

DANGIT!! I remember seeing how to pick something like this... I don't remember where, and I can barely visualize the method.

THIS IS BUGGING ME!!!


After re-reading raimundo's post, I think that's what I'm thinking about.

[tshock]

this is definently a lock, look at this page for some pictures of the lock and key.

http://www.iurpa.org/mtrguard.htm

look at this page for a diagram
http://deviating.net/lockpicking/05.01-barrel_locks.html



Does the tool you are talking about look like the key from the first website raimundo??

[Shrub]

It doesnt look very complicated just awkward, it doesnt seem like a proper lock to me rather just a plug that can be inserted or removed if you have the right shape on the tool to pull it out,

I dont know what you are up to and if its official or not but you shouldnt be tampering with the articles that these 'locks' are on!

I know you say youve come by this lock but with a 6 post count we dont know that,

If tempted do not tamper with electric meters, they are dangourus especially if the owner catches you

I dont think you should or will get any info on how to open them here, sorry.

[tshock]

Calm down.

I am not tampering with an electric meter. I found one of those locks on the ground after the guy who checks our electric meter checked it, he must have dropped it.

New lock=New challenge thats my point of view. if i wanted to do somthing illegal i would just bust the lock off or somthing.
but i understand not discussing that here

[Minion]

Who's to say that a pair of pliers couldn't be the key!

Simple security does mean reliable, just reliably easy to bypass.

[Shrub]

Calm down.

I wasnt calmed up!

I am not tampering with an electric meter. I found one of those locks on the ground after the guy who checks our electric meter checked it, he must have dropped it.

Sorry but this statement makes it sound even more dodgy, no offense.

If youre not tampering with one, a guest to this site may do if it shown how to do it, thats why you will not be told here, (i dont think anyway)

[tshock]

Calm down.
but i understand not discussing that here

Its not a big deal I understand not discussing it

[raimundo]

I think its a seal, it snaps together, and there is a tool to remove them that you could call a key, but when used as a seal, there is also an aluminum cap that covers the end and is crimped under the edge of the bevel, this will show breakage if its tampered with. if yours did not have the aluminum cap on it, it hasn't been applied, you could probably find a metal pen barrel that would push the four fingers together inside it and open it up. I am taking your word that it was found left behind. you may see such a thing on a gas line where the gas company has cut off the customer, put through a valve handle to lock it down. does your electric service also handle gas/

[Santos718]

To tell you the truth, it looks like a viewing scope. The things you put on your door to see who on the other side.

[jongir]

It looks quite similair to a pincer lock to me. different shape but same design. I would stick a pick in and see if you can pull the bearing that is pretruding from it down then just pull out. Try either a half diamond or an extractor.

[Nasydave]

If it's the type of seal I think it is, you can open it with a plastic plumbing fixture supply line with a slice down the end that you stick in the tube. Slice the end of the tube with a utility knife about 1". When you insert the tubing, it will split around the inner part and open the seal.

[Niteporter]

These are common utility lock-out devices usually installed to deny access to service (as all locks are designed to deny access). They vary in complexity, but the common denominator is special key/tool to activate the lock.

Usually a piston is forced between two to four ball-bearings by a spring. The bearings when engaged, extend outside their sleeve to grip a groove cut into the barrel that slides over the device. The design is meant to force the person desiring access to destroy the lock, thus creating evidence of tampering- but like all locks, they are defeatable.

Shrub seems particularly sensitive to this type of device being picked. I am curious, because if it is danger, then there is plenty of info a kid could use to pick a gun safe lock and pull a Columbine. If it is legality of tampering with goverment or utility company property, then plenty of info is here in the forum to pick locks on gates to power sub-stations. So, that said, before I post the secret of defeating the UCBL, let me know compelling treasons not to- like getting kicked from the site or something- 'cause thats the only real reason I have to refrain from posting what I consider relevant lockpicking info.

Thanks!

[hotdjdave]

The key to this lock is either a plunger type or a screw type. The plunger type key has a long skinny shaft that has an opening at the end and when employed opens up three little fingers that grab the inner part of the lock to pull it out.

The key is kind of like the grabber you find at a mechanics shop that he uses when he drops a small part inside the engine and can't reach it. Some of the grabbers have a magenet on the end, but others have a device that when employed, opens up with three grabber fingers to grasp an object then hold it when you release the trigger.

It's a simple design, but hard to get to the working mechanism on the "barrel lock." It is basically going inside the lock and grabbing the cylinder, releasing the holding mechanism and pulling out the cylinder. Something has to go inside the lock and "open up" to grasp the cylinder to pull it out.

The keys are hard to get because the companies that sell them will only sell to utility companies. I used to have a couple of the keys (two different sizes), but I can't find them...probably in a box somewhere in the garage.

Here are some sites that sell the locks and keys:

http://www.brooksutility.com/catalog/to ... asp?Cat=36

http://www.inner-tite.com/home.html
http://www.inner-tite.com/ebarrellock.html
http://www.inner-tite.com/wbarrellock.html

If anyone knows a way to pick this barrel lock, please post it.