Best Locksmithing book. your opinion

by **nextlevel** » 27 Jul 2005 17:40

I have been deciding on a lot of books to read up on and found a crazy amount of older books and hardly any newer ones. my question is for some of the more experienced locksmith here. which book do you "think" is better, in your opinion. Of course I got the MIT guide. besides that. :idea:

by **Chrispy** » 27 Jul 2005 19:35

Locksmithing or lockpicking? For locksmithing, there a many good books, one that comes to mind is Locks & Locksmithing by Bill Phillips. There are 5 editions (updated from the last edition). For lockpicking, you can find a lot of information on the net, you don't need to buy a book.

by **nextlevel** » 27 Jul 2005 20:11

good point. I guess a lil of both. I was not thinking to much about being a difference when i posted the thread but I think peoples opinion on both maybe a good idea.

by **hongkongdragon** » 29 Jul 2005 18:38

Chrispy wrote:Locksmithing or lockpicking? For locksmithing, there a many good books, one that comes to mind is Locks & Locksmithing by Bill Phillips. There are 5 editions (updated from the last edition). For lockpicking, you can find a lot of information on the net, you don't need to buy a book.

But won't I know more about the locks design from book? I mean, you need to understand a system fully to be able to break it.

I work in the Security Industry, mainly Penetration testing, IT and Physical audit. I am new to locks, but in Information Security. The princple is to Know your enemy, Know yourself.

Are you sure? Because I got MIT guide, and Steel Bolt hacking already. And a few hours ago, I got to 2 books from Amazon.

Locksmithing: From Apprentice to Master
~Steve Lasky (Foreword), Joseph E. Rathjen

And

The Complete Book of Locks and Locksmithing
~C.A. Roper, Bill Phillips (Editor)

Anyway if you are sure, I can go back to cancel it. I can use the money to get more locks instead. :lol:

by **Chrispy** » 29 Jul 2005 18:58

One of my basic principles is that you can never learn enough. Whether you learn from a book, from a net article or from taking a lock apart and putting it back together, never stop learning. Those books you ordered will be a very interesting read and a valuable asset. Read, practice, re-read, practice, search for more, read that, practice more, and always be on the lookout for something to learn.*End babble*

by **hongkongdragon** » 29 Jul 2005 19:10

Chrispy wrote:One of my basic principles is that you can never learn enough. Whether you learn from a book, from a net article or from taking a lock apart and putting it back together, never stop learning. Those books you ordered will be a very interesting read and a valuable asset. Read, practice, re-read, practice, search for more, read that, practice more, and always be on the lookout for something to learn.*End babble*

Thanks Chrispy.

But knowing my luck, the The Complete Book of Locks and Locksmithing
~C.A. Roper, Bill Phillips (Editor) I ordered was 2001 edition, and I just realised, the 2005 edition just came out!!!!

After I ordered it. Do you think the 2001 edition will be much different to 2005?

by **Chrispy** » 29 Jul 2005 19:19

I've got the 5th edition which was printed 2001. You might be in luck. Next time, check the edition # first. :wink:

by **Santos718** » 29 Jul 2005 20:35

Chrispy wrote:I've got the 5th edition which was printed 2001. You might be in luck. Next time, check the edition # first.

I have the same edition except that it just says that it was copyrighted in 2001. IT could just be that the title "Locks and Locksmithing" was copywrited. I don't see a publich date on it. Maybe not looking inthe right place, but it isn't where it usually is.

by **Chrispy** » 29 Jul 2005 20:40

The 1st edition was published in 1976. I'd say 2001 was the printing year or at least the copyright update for the included information (as it was reprinted with more info) for the 5th edition.

by **Santos718** » 29 Jul 2005 20:47

Chrispy wrote:The 1st edition was published in 1976. I'd say 2001 was the printing year or at least the copyright update for the included information (as it was reprinted with more info) for the 5th edition.

Makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

by **Chrispy** » 29 Jul 2005 21:01

No worries.

by **hongkongdragon** » 1 Aug 2005 16:06

Chrispy wrote:I've got the 5th edition which was printed 2001. You might be in luck. Next time, check the edition # first.

I did check, it was the latest at the time which I placed the order.

After that (Within 24 hours) the 2005 edition was for sale on amazon.

But it's ok, I am sending it back to them. I might as well get the latest edition 6.

by **Chrispy** » 1 Aug 2005 16:10

hongkongdragon wrote:But it's ok, I am sending it back to them. I might as well get the latest edition 6.

Yeah, why not? :lol:

by **nextlevel** » 2 Aug 2005 19:37

I could not make a good choice so I picked them all....

the secrets of lock picking by steve hampton
modern high security locks and how to open them by steve hamton
locks safes and security by marc tobais
secrets of a back alley ID man
locksmithing
complete guide 2 lock picking
the complete book of locks and locksmithing

so that should just bout cover it....
:shock:

by **nextlevel** » 2 Aug 2005 19:38

well just ignore the little back alley ID Man book.... :roll:

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