Work at a Commercial/Industrial Locksmith: Buying the LSS?

[David_Parker]

So I work at a locksmith company that does commericial and industrial locksmithing. These guys have everything. I mean everything. Locks, bypass tools, auto-dialers for safes. My question is though:

Should I even bother buying the 2nd Edition of the LSS?

I mean, I could learn practically everything there is to know about locks, but it will take longer, because it has to gradually come to me, rather than just reading about it.

I'm thinking I should buy it. What are your opinions?

-Dave.

[digital_blue]

I have the 2nd Edition LSS and I think it's a fantastic resource. Highly recommended. I suppose it comes down to budget. If it's gonna take food off your table, leave 'em be for a while. If not, you'll enjoy them immensely.

Cheers!

db

[Santos718]

I would buy it, but it would kill my chances of getting a new car. So, I'll wait. You know how poor us college students are.

[vector40]

I personally do not think that a whole lot of the information in the LSS is something you'll use day-to-day as a trading locksmith. There are other books that are more relevant to that, and for the most part, practical training comes from hands-on work and training anyway.

The LSS is more of an academic tome, full of intriguing information for lock and security nuts. It's a reference.

[fixer]

If you have money to spare, subscribe to 'Locksmith Ledger' or 'The National Locksmith'. Both of these magazines have useful information for working locksmiths. Unfortunatly nothing really interesting for pickers other than the vendor pages.

If you are trying to forward your formal education as a locksmith, take a look at www.aloa.org they have training guides and internationally recognised certification.

Your biggest source of learning is the locksmiths in the company you work for. If you have a problem with a lock, ask them for help. If you have down-time, see if you can work in the shop with someone and help them with their work rather than goofing off.

Also talk to your bosses and see if they will pay for any classes. Some companies will pay you back for your training costs if you pass with a good grade.

Good Luck.

[pip]

.

i still want my own LSS
from the rave reviews that is has gotten from members
i know that it is worth the bucks ( $280 canadian )
but since i have decided
that i am just going to concentrate on PT locks
LSS will have to wait until i win the lottery
the best teacher / experience i can get now
is my own locks, practice, and patience

[jamesphilhulk2]

my friend who is teaching me lockpicking has both volums of the book and he told me that they ask lots of questions and i was wondering if someone who has the book could tell me what types of questions they ask. and even if you could tell me the answers as well

[Mad Mick]

...they ask lots of questions and i was wondering if someone who has the book could tell me what types of questions they ask. and even if you could tell me the answers as well

And that would help you? The only help you need, is a little guidance and lots of practice. An olympic sprinter doesn't become an over-night sensation just by being given the relevant answers...Practice, practice, practice!

[RenderMan]

Just bought the locksmith version from Marc Tobias at Defcon and I've barely started reading, but as someone who is a lock and security nut, it's already clear that I've got alot of evenings booked ahead of me.

There's alot of interesting info, but depending on your interest, not all will be useful. Keep in mind it is a reference for those in the industry. If your just a weekend picker, it's probobly not for you.

[Grudge]

my friend who is teaching me lockpicking has both volums of the book and he told me that they ask lots of questions

Must be a different set of books. Marc Tobias's book "Locks, Safes and Security" is a two volume set and would best be described as a lock and safe encyclopedia (no questions that I remember).