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did i buy the wrong stuff for making picks?

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby Chrispy » 30 Jul 2005 6:19

helix wrote:err, I beg to differ :P

:roll: Practice leads to improvement which can place an individual on the road to perfection. Better? :P
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Postby Shrub » 30 Jul 2005 8:19

helix wrote:
Chrispy wrote:Practice makes perfect :P



err, I beg to differ :P



He didnt say perfect what,

It could be ,
'practice makes perfect sence'
'practice makes perfect underpants'
'practice makes perfect and perfect makes no practice'

Ill just shut up :oops:
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Postby helix » 30 Jul 2005 8:27

If an individual is placed on the road to perfection and achieves this
incapability to learn anything new (being perfect) I would say that it is a
fairly big flaw, making the term perfect, a paradox.

ie: if you have the flaw of being perfect, you can't be perfect.


:wink:
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Postby helix » 30 Jul 2005 8:31

Anyway, just having a go at yous, in case you didn't
realise:

....my sig: :shock:
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Postby Santos718 » 30 Jul 2005 8:34

helix wrote:If an individual is placed on the road to perfection and achieves this
incapability to learn anything new (being perfect) I would say that it is a
fairly big flaw, making the term perfect, a paradox.

ie: if you have the flaw of being perfect, you can't be perfect.


:wink:


wow...you sound like an English professor reading from a dictionary, or book of theories.
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Postby helix » 30 Jul 2005 8:52

Nah, just feeling very philosophical today.
Probably sleep sometime this week, haha.

....couldn't help myself. :P
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Postby Shrub » 30 Jul 2005 10:30

helix wrote:If an individual is placed on the road to perfection and achieves this
incapability to learn anything new (being perfect) I would say that it is a
fairly big flaw, making the term perfect, a paradox.

ie: if you have the flaw of being perfect, you can't be perfect.


:wink:



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good call.

Does this open the flood gate for all the philosophical feeling members out there to start,

'The road to perfection can be a high or low one and somtimes may be rocky but one day you will reach a peak and consider the road mapped and conquered until you look down and see the road continueing down the other side and out into the distance, bugger'
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Postby nextlevel » 30 Jul 2005 12:45

well back to my point of why are all of these blades like just bending. instead of breaking for me to make picks with them. also I got like 4 older locks today from a old locksmith int he area....they are older then me...and 1 is a weird doublesided lock that they said something about being illegal now
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Postby Shrub » 30 Jul 2005 12:51

nextlevel wrote:well back to my point of why are all of these blades like just bending. instead of breaking for me to make picks with them.


We all have told you what to do, re read if youve forgotten already.

You lock wont be illegal! it will just be illegal to fit it in certain circumstances, possably it doesnt meet fire regs or somthing if fitted to an apartment.
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Postby nextlevel » 30 Jul 2005 14:34

well everyone keeps saying it will work...the stuff i have but yet it bends to easy...made a tension wrench and it bent so far because of teh material and then broke....so my qquestion still being why is it that at all of these palce they only have bi-metal with cobalt in it or hi-speed bendable blades...........i am not i guess following what everyone is saying or no one is following what i am saying.....i am just getting frustrated and want to get the right stuff to make it. i have watched pyro's vid many many many times and am following those steps and with this not being the obviously correct material for the job i do not know what to do............ anyone else around the MI area that could maybe help ouyt a lil bit.....


thanks.............. :roll:
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Postby Shrub » 30 Jul 2005 14:56

Right listen,

Read all the other pick making threads for starters we have someone saying this at least every month,

A few pointers,

If you are using proper hacksaw blades then you may be getting them too hot when you are grinding them, to solve this you should quench the pick every couple of seconds, if the pick is dis-colouring you are getting it to hot, you should not press the pick onto the grinder hard or the grinder on the pick hard, let the grinder do the work, have a bucket of clean cold water next to you but away from the electrics and keep quenching the pick (quench-dunking the pick in to the water and stiring it around), you will not need to and shouldnt be weraing gloves while grinding your pick,

The pick/s you have already made may be able to be rescued if you can get to a heat source, heat the pick up until it is as bright as you can get it (either a bright red or bright orange depending on what material it is), do not do this indoors, do not do this in the microwave, when you have got it bright orange quench it, polish your pick until shiney, do not actually use polish just use emry paper (emry paper-an engineers sand paper), when shiney heat up again very slightly until the pick becomes a straw colour-light yellowy, then quench the pick again, this should have hardened your pick up to be useable,
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Postby nextlevel » 30 Jul 2005 15:26

shrub;
I appreciate the help except this is what i mean. I have read and re-read the info/how-to's and still i keep getting the wrong blades........i am following the video step by step and looking at all of the other directions......maybe my post is not coming accross the correct way i am simply trying to say i am a dumbass i guess and keep buying the wrong blades to make picks with and could someone point me in the right direction as I have bought 3 different packs all the wrong ones, and now i am just getting frustrated......if sum 1 feels like helping me out i have AIM and my id is "grandrapidsbest"
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Postby Shrub » 30 Jul 2005 18:12

This is the only thing i can think of so im sorry if you think its taking the pisss but i can think what else your problem may be,

This is a hacksaw,

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This is a hacksaw blade, this one is a silicon carbide one that can be bent right round without snapping as you say yours can, still perfect for picks,

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Does that help you?
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Postby Shrub » 30 Jul 2005 18:15

Sorry i didnt mean silicon carbide i meant silicon steel,
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Postby nextlevel » 2 Aug 2005 11:58

shrub;
I am not meaning disrespect or anything but i was frustrated and they kept seeming to bend to easily. I did however make a trip to my local "Harbor Freight & Tool" localtion and they had the perfect stuff. I also recv.'d my mini jack-knife lockpick set and later today I should recv. my whole 32 pcs. set.....thanks for all of the help I really do appreciate it.
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