master No. 40

[geno]

I picked up a master #40 this afternoon (only $8!) I found one that had a high low config. This is the first master that has given me any trouble.
The pins dont seem to set. If I run a rake through it I can hear the 2 rear most pins fall when I release tension.

I must say... Its a very nice looking lock.

Its nice having a lock that didnt pop open in 4 seconds on the first try


welp, back to picking

[Santos718]

Good Luck

[geno]

well this lock is just kicking my butt. I managed to get it open once with my snake rake.

More updates to come...... Hopefully

[geno]

This a a very trickey lock. I cannot get the pins to set. My master #5 will open if the key is turned either way, but the pins will only set if I put counter clockwise tension on the plug. The #40 can only turn clockwise.

None of my rakes are effective either. Up to this point I have been able to open any lock if I spend enough time raking/jiggling it.

Currently I have a snake rake, short hook, small half diamond , sawtooth rake and a double sided-double ended rake.

If anyone has any ideas how I can set these pins or a pick recommendation, let me know.

Thanks

[helix]

This a a very trickey lock. I cannot get the pins to set. My master #5 will open if the key is turned either way, but the pins will only set if I put counter clockwise tension on the plug.

If you are single pin picking this lock, are you sure that muscle-memory
isn't playing a big part of opening?
Try picking it slow.

With ccw tension, which is the pin that most binds?
With cw tension, I would think that this pin would be the least binding.
Try picking it in the reverse order that you can normally open it.

..........pick recommendation, let me know.

Make yourself a more of a 'reach' hook.

[sublime progie]

Raking often depends on luck. Try your lock with single pin picking.

[cha0s]

ive got a master no3 i just got. im having problems setting pins too but thats cus most of my tools dont get past the 2nd pin. <excited> Time to make new ones...</excited>

[geno]

Raking often depends on luck. Try your lock with single pin picking.

Did you read the part where I mentioned that I couldn't set any pins?
Raking is a last resort when I am fed up. There is no real sense of accomplishment in raking.

[sublime progie]

sorry, missed that part

[geno]

sorry, missed that part

Sorry if that sounded abrasive.

well I got it open again. Its a very odd sequence to get all the pins to set.
I started at the first pin and then moved back. As I pushed the pins down with the short hook I would hold them down with the body of the pick.

I found that when I got to the third pin there was more resistance. Once the third pin set, the first and second could now be set correctly. The 4th pin has a very short cut so it takes just a little movement to get it set.

The strange thing is that I cant just start at the third pin. I need to hold the first and second pin while setting the third.