Master Lock New Method?!

[YelseW]

Hi, I'm not sure if this applies to all master locks but here is the theory:

The shackle (the U part of the lock) must be already OPENED. With the lock opened, rest the shackle onto the latch (the hole that it is supposed to go in). DO NOT lock the lock by pushing the shackle in, but simply rest it on top. Then turn the dial (knob to enter combination) several times CLOCKWISE and notice where the shackle moves down, and back up. At the number where the shackle starts to move down, you will feel much resistance on the dial. This number is the LAST number of your 3 number combination. As you probably know...Once you find out the LAST number, you can figure out the first two with a widget or using modulus 4, etc.

Can anybody verify finding the last number like this? This method works for the 2 locks that I have (One is about 10 years old with no keyhole in the back, the other is 1 year old for highschool locks with the golden keyhole in the back). Please try this on your MASTER COMBINATION LOCK.

Any information, tips, or advice are greatly appreciated. Thanks alot.

[YelseW]

The lock that I am referring to is the silver Master Combination lock which has a black dial that says 'Master' in the center. Here is a link to a picture of the lock that I am describing:

http://www.onlinesports.com/images/cp-lock1502.jpg

[mcm757207]

Seems pointless to me... if you already have it open you have the combo, no? And even if you don't, you can figure it out by looking into the hole where the shackle sits, aligning the wheels and then subtracting five or so.

[YelseW]

The reason for this is if one were to shim the Master lock, one could then find out the combination for later use. For example: I find a Master lock (closed), so I decide to shim it. Then I would have the last number (if my method works), thus I would be able to find out the first two numbers and I would be able to use it. This method also verifies the 'pulling down 12 sticking points' trick that some people may not have mastered...

BUT WAIT!!! What is this 'looking into hole trick and aligning the dials'? I've never read anything about doing that. Can someone describe to me how this works or give me a link?

Thanks alot.

[stick]

Look through the hole that the shackle has recently vacated, and spin the dials. If you understand at all how a combo lock like this works, this is easy to understand: spin the dial until you see the cuts in the discs. Line all of them up, take note of the numbers, and add, subtract, add (or vice versa, depending on how you spin the dial) to the three numbers some arbitrary number, usually around 5, and you'll get a working combo.

[YelseW]

Oh thanks, but what should the slits in the dicks line up to...If I see them from various angles they give different numbers. And is the disk closest to the front side the first number, or the last?

[cracksman]

Oh thanks, but what should the slits in the dicks line up to...I

err...Let's keep the site PG

I have a couple of boxes of Master combos at work, if I could recover the combination I would love to learn how, they have the little keyways in the back so opening them isn't a problem.

[YelseW]

LOL my bad i meant slits in the disks... DISKS DISKS!!! Note that the S is close to the C on the keyboard...ehehehehe

[YelseW]

So does anybody have any links or descriptions of how to adjust the disks by twisting the dial and looking into the shackle resting hole?

[raimundo]

it helps to hold the locking dog back out of the way while looking down the shackle hole to see the tumblers, I make a stiff wire that wraps around the leg of the shackle that is still in the body of the lock and from there comes across to the hole and with a straight down bend, can be pushed in to hold the locking dog out of the way. You might also be able to make one that simply is doubled to go into the open hole twice and with spreading pressure, pushing from one side of the hole against the dog. You of course would have a bit more wire in the way of seening things, but it should help.

[hzatorsk]

Look through the hole that the shackle has recently vacated, and spin the dials. If you understand at all how a combo lock like this works, this is easy to understand: spin the dial until you see the cuts in the discs. Line all of them up, take note of the numbers, and add, subtract, add (or vice versa, depending on how you spin the dial) to the three numbers some arbitrary number, usually around 5, and you'll get a working combo.

Actually, it is eleven. A bright light behind you and a careful gaze into the lock. Working it as if you are actually opening it but aligning the gates where you can see them through the hasp hole.

Add eleven to the first number (right). Subtract eleven from the second number (left). Add eleven to the last (right).

It's been posted here several times in the past.

Cheers

z

[hzatorsk]

Look through the hole that the shackle has recently vacated, and spin the dials. If you understand at all how a combo lock like this works, this is easy to understand: spin the dial until you see the cuts in the discs. Line all of them up, take note of the numbers, and add, subtract, add (or vice versa, depending on how you spin the dial) to the three numbers some arbitrary number, usually around 5, and you'll get a working combo.

Actually, it is eleven. A bright light behind you and a careful gaze into the lock. Working it as if you are actually opening it but aligning the gates where you can see them through the hasp hole.

Add eleven to the first number (right). Subtract eleven from the second number (left). Add eleven to the last (right).

It's been posted here several times in the past.

Cheers

z

Ahhh piss... That should have been substract 11 first... By... 'Add'... I mean 'subtract from the displayed number' which is the same as 'add' more 'turning' to the dial when turning right. The idea is to move the gates further clockwise around the lock by eleven spaces. Grr...