Picking MasterLock No.5

[ThE_MasteR]

Hey everyone,

It's been quite some time I haven't been on the forums because of a breakdown of my machine.

Since it broke down, I went to buy myself a master lock no.5 and I am really not able to pick it. Now, what I can see are security pins ( 1st pin is one of them). I heard these are quite difficult to pick because of their design, but I also heard about some folks being able to pick this lock in a matter of minutes.

If someone can tell me how exactly I should be doing this, I would be happy.

THX

[cha0s]

Once you know how to handle a security pin its easier.. do some reading like the MIT guide. Itll help alot

[ThE_MasteR]

Once you know how to handle a security pin its easier.. do some reading like the MIT guide. Itll help alot

I'll give you some news..Thanks.

edit: It's around 15 minutes that I am trying to pick it and the cylinder dosen't even budge a tiny little bit. I feel the 3rd pin is binding but when I lift it, nothing happens..

[cracksman]

Your #5 doesn't have security pins, what it
does have that throws a lot of us, well me
anyways, is possibly a pin or two that sets at
or near the shearline. I'm not sure if I am
breaking with tradition here, but I would suggest
rather heavy tension, and starting with the one pin,
if it will bind for you, slowly raise it (using a fulcrum
effect, from your wrench on the bottom of the keyway,
until you feel and here a resounding "snap",
Keep the same pressure on the rest (be mindful that
some may not need to be touched-very important)
If you've raised it way up, it was probably already set

[ThE_MasteR]

Your #5 doesn't have security pins, what it
does have that throws a lot of us, well me
anyways, is possibly a pin or two that sets at
or near the shearline. I'm not sure if I am
breaking with tradition here, but I would suggest
rather heavy tension, and starting with the one pin,
if it will bind for you, slowly raise it (using a fulcrum
effect, from your wrench on the bottom of the keyway,
until you feel and here a resounding "snap",
Keep the same pressure on the rest (be mindful that
some may not need to be touched-very important)
If you've raised it way up, it was probably already set

Thanks for that cracksman..There's only one thing, the first pin I can see has like a grove on the diameter of the pin so it must be a security pin.. ? Or am I wrong ?

[stick]

I thought I had a security pin once from seeing a line on the front pin. Turns out it was just the edge of the plug. Sure you're not making that mistake?

[Minion]

it could be a serrated pin, most likely that's what it is. Cracksman was kind enough to include those in his american cylinders

[ThE_MasteR]

Yes it must be a serrated pin because it's clearly ON the pin itself.

Anyways, I managed to open my No.40 Masterlock just by being a bit more careful with my picks, and I am now able to open it easily..

THX guys.

[quickpicks]

IF the laminated steel padlocks have serrated pins, in my opinion they are so much easier to pick. IF there are serrated pins the model number would uaually have"UP" at the end of it..

[ThE_MasteR]

Mine doesn't have the UP writting, but believe me the pins in this lock are not normal pins..Because I would have opened it a long time ago.

[quickpicks]

sometimes they are like that. I had a master lock no.15 that was literally the size of my hand and I thought it had security pins too but it didnt. I think it is just the high setting pins in theese buggers that confuse us sometimes.

[cracksman]

Master,

If you can use a small pin or needle, stick it
in the "groove" it is possible that you are actually
looking at the bottom of the top pin, if it is you
will be able to raise the top pin and leave the bottom
where it is, just looking at my No. 5 and that's the
way it is.

[Heliox]

Yes it must be a serrated pin because it's clearly ON the pin itself.

Anyways, I managed to open my No.40 Masterlock just by being a bit more careful with my picks, and I am now able to open it easily..

THX guys.

I've run across several locks that have short bottom pins where you can see the driver through the keyway. The first several times I saw this, I thought it was a security pin. Are you sure you're not seeing the gap between the bottom pin and the driver pin?

[Chucklz]

The number 5 lock from Master does not contain security pins. The UP locks do not contain security pins per se. These pins are serrated for the "keying" operation on these locks, which involves shearing these pins. This results in possibly serrated top and bottom pins, but they really arent too much hassle.

[ThE_MasteR]

I feel so bad now lol.

The groove that I was seeing on the pin wasn't actually a groove on the pin it was the driver pin lol. I did the needle trick (thanks man ) Now that I know that I might actually get somewhere lol..

Thanks for metionning it anyways