Hardest lock

[oaksy]

What is the hardest lock that you have ever picked?????????

The one that was hard for me was the Yale X5 but i got there in the end and pick another 6 more of them now...

Going to try Yale PBS1 when i get my hands on one????
Regards
Oaksy

[n2oah]

Well, I pwn t3h m3d3c0z so not much is hard for me.

Hardest lock-- Some American padlocks I pinned myself. It had all key pins serrated, two serrated spools, two serrated, and two spools.

[sublime progie]

is that i own ten medecos?

[wtf|pickproof?]

is that i own ten medecos?

hrhr

[quickpicks]

the hardest lock I attemped to pick was an ABLOY 350 W/ DISCLOCK PRO cylinder. I never did pick it yet.

[vector40]

I don't even try super-hard locks ^_^ I've got more sense than that.

The hardest lock I've never picked is the Grade 1 Schlages on the back door of my house. Stupid things.

[n2oah]

I'll be trying a couple of Mul-t-Locks and Abloys this weekend
I'll probably be able the get the Mul-t-Locks with some practice, but they Abloys will be impossible.

[wtf|pickproof?]

I've been playing with a MAGNUM u-lock disc tumbler and my EVVA 3KS. I haven't been able to gain any ground on those.

I'd really like to play with a KABA gemini S thou.

BTW.: Are discussions regarding the EVVA 3KS restricted to the advanced section?

[n2oah]

BTW.: Are discussions regarding the EVVA 3KS restricted to the advanced section?

Is the Evva 3KS the one with three tracks in it? I'd love to get my hands on one of these, but I haven't a clue where I'd get one. (Evva is Austrian, right?)
I am interested in the anatomy of the 3KS, but I haven't seen a detailed diagram that shows the parts clearly.

[wtf|pickproof?]

BTW.: Are discussions regarding the EVVA 3KS restricted to the advanced section?

Is the Evva 3KS the one with three tracks in it? I'd love to get my hands on one of these, but I haven't a clue where I'd get one. (Evva is Austrian, right?)
I am interested in the anatomy of the 3KS, but I haven't seen a detailed diagram that shows the parts clearly.

http://www.evva.at/Images/3ks.gif
^--a nice diagramm of the 3KS

enjoy it!

[n2oah]

http://www.evva.at/Images/3ks.gif
^--a nice diagramm of the 3KS

enjoy it!

I've seen that one, but wasn't able to grasp the concept of it. I can see most of the parts in that one, but still can't tell exactly how it works.

[toomush2drink]

Ok here is the blurb on these superb locks direct from the site.

General Information

The unique 3-Curve-System with reversible key offers many advantages for single door protection and master key systems.
How does it work?
Highest functional reliability is guaranteed by 12 springless operating locking pins, which are forced in certain positions and checked by two side bars. An additional bottom bar checks the edge profiles of the key.

3KS
Your advantages!
Pin Reversible key system: You can insert the key in both ways (like a car key)
Pin High wear resistance and picking protection through springless operating locking pins
Pin Drilling and plug pulling protection through hard metal plates in the plug and hard metal pins in the body
Pin Picking protection through a complicated technical system: 12 springless operating locking pins with 18 control pins have to be brought in a certain position to turn the plug
Pin Protection against pulling and breaking off through locking pins and side bars and a special cam
Pin High wear resistance and long durability through special locking pins and a springless bottom bar
Pin Technical (key protection) organizational (security card) key protection
Pin Legal key protection through patents: e.g. Euro-Patent-Nr. 0335.069, Euro-Patent-Nr. 0613.987, USA-Patent-Nr. 4977.767
Pin Modular system on special request

So there you go, 2 side bars and another added at the bottom. No springs but 12 pins and at least 18 control pins. If you think this a tough cookie check out the msc they reckon its pick proof !!

[n2oah]

Ok here is the blurb on these superb locks direct from the site.

General Information

The unique 3-Curve-System with reversible key offers many advantages for single door protection and master key systems.
How does it work?
Highest functional reliability is guaranteed by 12 springless operating locking pins, which are forced in certain positions and checked by two side bars. An additional bottom bar checks the edge profiles of the key.

3KS
Your advantages!
Pin Reversible key system: You can insert the key in both ways (like a car key)
Pin High wear resistance and picking protection through springless operating locking pins
Pin Drilling and plug pulling protection through hard metal plates in the plug and hard metal pins in the body
Pin Picking protection through a complicated technical system: 12 springless operating locking pins with 18 control pins have to be brought in a certain position to turn the plug
Pin Protection against pulling and breaking off through locking pins and side bars and a special cam
Pin High wear resistance and long durability through special locking pins and a springless bottom bar
Pin Technical (key protection) organizational (security card) key protection
Pin Legal key protection through patents: e.g. Euro-Patent-Nr. 0335.069, Euro-Patent-Nr. 0613.987, USA-Patent-Nr. 4977.767
Pin Modular system on special request

So there you go, 2 side bars and another added at the bottom. No springs but 12 pins and at least 18 control pins. If you think this a tough cookie check out the msc they reckon its pick proof !!

How much do they cost? I'm guessing about 80 euros

[Mad Mick]

TuBar was pretty darn difficult - never got it! How ya doing with it Ray?

[wtf|pickproof?]

How much do they cost? I'm guessing about 80 euros

I saw one at DIY store for 115€. I got mine from a really nice locksmith in vienna when I asked for some old locks. That guy was really nice, yeah, lockies are nice people.