Safe technicians

by **jamesphilhulk2** » 26 Aug 2005 14:41

i have been on this WONDERFULL site now for quite some time, i have read many post on various topics and on a few of them iv'e been hearing about safe techs and i have a ew questions for you :wink:

1) whats the difference between locksmiths and safe Technicians?

2) Is it a difficult job

Thank you in advance for your replies

by **Santos718** » 26 Aug 2005 15:24

How many times did you click submit?

by **TOWCH** » 26 Aug 2005 16:05

Safe technicians specialize in safes and safe locks. You can be both, but not all locksmiths are capable of doing safe work.

by **Chrispy** » 26 Aug 2005 16:05

You mean the Back button, then Submit.... :roll:

1. A locksmith does a variety of jobs relating to all types of locks, not just safes. He might be installing a deadbolt on a customers door in the morning, cutting or impressioning keys an hour later, then head out to a automobile lockout at lunch, over to a hotel to do some masterkeying in the afternoon, etc., etc., etc. A safe tech will mainly focus on safes.

2. That depends on the skill of the tech. Difficulty is relative, what's difficult for one person seems easy for another. Of course, I'm not a locksmith or a safe tech, so I'll throw the floor open to the many other site members who are.

by **raimundo** » 26 Aug 2005 16:51

Try to google "jeff sitar" or "dave mcomie" and see what you find. :lol:

by **Saedis** » 26 Aug 2005 18:37

The biggest difference I have noticed is guys dedicated to safe work seem to be alot better off money wise. :shock:

Although it does cost ALOT more money to excel in that end of the biz.

by **Saedis** » 26 Aug 2005 18:49

As far as being difficult Chrispy is correct. I would add to that, that when doing safe work you will never know it all off the top of your head.

Not even Dave does. He has a MASSIVE reference library (most of which he compiled himself).

You have to know where to drill a safe, and the only way to know that is to have reference materials or prior experience on that exact model. There are alot of safes out there from a multitude of manufacturers, many of which no longer exist. You will compile a literal library of safe information, drawings, photos, etc. if you pursue this line of work it is a necessity.

The more data you have on the safe you are going to attack, will determine whether it is more difficult, or less difficult.

I've only done a little bit of safe work but I enjoy it immensely, and look forward to increasing my skills and knowledge in this area myself.

by **jamesphilhulk2** » 26 Aug 2005 19:10

are there any books, video's or web sites where i can learn more about safe work?

by **vector40** » 26 Aug 2005 21:05

I have some doubts that you'd be able to learn much through such sources. Much more than locksmithing, safe work has retained its "security by obscurity" to a still-significant degree. Learning from a master is still probably the most common method by far.

by **Saedis** » 27 Aug 2005 13:09

jamesphilhulk2 wrote:are there any books, video's or web sites where i can learn more about safe work?

Google up SAVTA.

Check out there website and you might be able to get their magazine. I don't know if it's limited in it's distribution or not. My boss receives it and it's pretty cool.

You can learn alot about HOW to do things, but nothing beats practical application of the theory you've learned. So buy some cheap safes, preferrably with keys/combos so you can check out the boltwork and such and then drill them and dial them in.

You'll have to learn about transferance as well, which isn't really difficult but can be tedious.

A co-worker was showing me the process on a cheap sentry lastweeek and I got it right on my first try, but we have some very nice scopes available as his father is a certified master safecracker (NSO).

Try to join a locksmiths assc and get involved. Ours has several penetration parties a year which Dave Mcomie generally runs. Fun stuff, or so I hear I haven't had the oppurtunity to attend one yet, unfortunately.

by **Chrispy** » 27 Aug 2005 16:45

Saedis wrote:Ours has several penetration parties a year....

Must..... hold.... back......

Can't....... get...... thread........ locked......

I've been to some penetration parties....

girls were very friendly....

Sorry, couldn't help myself :oops:

by **HeadHunterCEO** » 27 Aug 2005 18:57

I am a full time safe tech

ask your questions

by **Mad Mick** » 27 Aug 2005 19:01

Been to any penetration parties?
*snigger*

by **n2oah** » 27 Aug 2005 19:02

Do you just use a standard borescopes for safework?

by **HeadHunterCEO** » 27 Aug 2005 19:05

Mad Mick wrote:Been to any penetration parties?
*snigger*

never a formal one but last week i had to open 5 atms so i had a private penetration party

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