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by Zammo » 6 Sep 2005 7:16
I need to change the lock on our UPVC door. It seems that all I need to change is the euro cylinder, (there's an example picture on this page http://www.lockshop-warehouse.co.uk/aca ... linder.gif )...How is easy is this for a novice and do I need any special tools other than a screwdriver.
Also any links to a "how to" guide would be much appreciated,
Thanks.
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by EvoRed » 6 Sep 2005 7:37
All you need is either a screwdriver or sometimes an allen key and it's very simple.
Just undo the retaining screw which will run through the bottom centre of the cylinder, turn the key to usually around 1 o'clock or 11 o'clock, and slide the cylinder out. Reverse the procedure for fitting a new one.
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by Houdini Locksmiths » 6 Sep 2005 8:07
Also when replacing the Euro lock either get the same size as the one fitted or as close to, except if you saw this:- So many times I've seen Euro locks protuding about a foot from the door (ok, stretching the truth abit)  , then get a smaller lock.
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by EvoRed » 6 Sep 2005 8:16
I saw one the other day on a shop which was sticking out a good 40-50mm! Does make you laugh!
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by toomush2drink » 6 Sep 2005 8:53
Shop door always have massive euros but they pad them out by putting a screwed on escutcheon around it, obviously its still an easy entry 
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by Shrub » 6 Sep 2005 10:07
All the super markets round here have them and stick them out 15mm as they think it looks better than a flush fitting one 
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by nhughz » 6 Sep 2005 10:17
One of my local banks has two euro's only on the front door, both protruding by over half an inch !!
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by NKT » 7 Sep 2005 19:50
I fixed a shop door today for a friend with this same issue. For a free fix, I just made it far harder to get the plate off!
A computer shop with a single euro... Amazing it had never been emptied!
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by oldlock » 8 Sep 2005 0:22
Whenever I used to install euro cyls, I allways fitted as close to flush as possible, and used a non std type of screw - IE pinned torx, and then fitted a ' warrenty void if removed sticker' over the screw head. Oh and the cylinder was registered key type. Generated extra work all the time.
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by Don Braidwood » 8 Sep 2005 3:36
Should the public know how to fit locks ? If that guy has managed to fit the lock thats one less job for a locksmith!
Don
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by cred » 8 Sep 2005 6:39
hi oldlock,
what do you have to to do to obtain a registered keyway and are they alot more expensive?
thanx
ray 
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by toomush2drink » 8 Sep 2005 6:52
If you contact aldridge cred the evva department is useful on this. Ive done a few restricted sections now but they are not exclusive to me just a lot harder to get keys for. The customers like this and you get the repeat key cutting sales.
The public will always change locks but it doing a good job isnt always that easy. Euro cylinders arent such a big deal as getting hold of the right size cylinder for the public isnt easy. B&Q only do a few sizes and then most of the people get stuck as they dont realise you need to put the key in to withdraw it. Ive also been called out to a lot of badly fitted locks mainly where the customer has had a go at chopping it into the door but messed it up. The funny thing is most always claim it was a handyman or something to pass the blame and save face. Ive done countless sashlocks where the handle wont turn and all because the spindle hole is too small or out of line. Yep the public should keep on fitting locks then calling me out to do it properly and sort out their _ ups 
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by oldlock » 8 Sep 2005 7:10
cred wrote:hi oldlock, what do you have to to do to obtain a registered keyway and are they alot more expensive? thanx ray 
They are more expensive, and you do make less money on the initial product sale - BUT - you can sell your customer a premium product, do complete houses on the same key, master keying etc. And only you can supply extra keys. I used Evva DPS from Aldridge - talk to Matt Lyon.
If you make the investment - fit the product at every job - I did - you will reap the benefits in the long run.
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