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unpickable locks

Postby hp » 5 Sep 2005 22:37

i been looking for a diagram of one them, do you know of any website with one? i would buy one and take it apart but i don't got any money a the time, how do they work? what make sit so the pick one work? and you still pull the lock or drill it? what makes it different, how does it work, . I have searched on this on here and on google, i can up empty handed

the only thing i can think of to make it harder to pick is to make it so that each pin has to individually rotated to a certain point but that seems way to hard to make a key that can do that

maybe i am asking for to much here but i would be pointless not to ask

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Postby digital_blue » 5 Sep 2005 22:59

Dude. I don't even know where to start.

In theory, there is no such thing as an unpickable lock. Of course, in practice, my own personal experiences beg to differ. ;)

Anyway. You speak of an "unpickable lock" as though it were a brand or model. It isn't. Best I can figure you may be thinking of a Medeco. Have a search for that.

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Postby TorchBlower » 6 Sep 2005 0:23

No locks are truely unpickable, more like pick resistant. Try a medeco or abloy for good types of pick resistant locks.
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Postby wtf|pickproof? » 6 Sep 2005 2:24

The EVVA 3KS is considered unpicked atm. Two sidebars and the bottom bar make it pretty hard, but not pickproof.

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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 6 Sep 2005 5:56

isn;t there a 14 page thread on unpickable locks?
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Re: unpickable locks

Postby Shrub » 6 Sep 2005 10:19

hp wrote:the only thing i can think of to make it harder to pick is to make it so that each pin has to individually rotated to a certain point but that seems way to hard to make a key that can do that


As said locks like this do exist but arent unpickable,

My opinion is this, even though i havent seen every lock produced by any stretch of the imagination the fact still remains that if a key is used to unlock a lock then that key could be replicated as a pick,

The only locks i consider un-PICKable are the ones that also contain electronics,
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Postby quickpicks » 6 Sep 2005 12:39

You may be able to make a lock unpickable if you weld the keyway shut. :P
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Postby SFGOON » 6 Sep 2005 13:13

A lock is pickable if you ar able to manipulate the working components, period.

Although electronic locks don't always have mechanical parts, they are still susceptable to other forms of manipulation that are analgous to picking.
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Postby pinky » 6 Sep 2005 15:46

an unpickable lock is any lock that wont open for you at 2am in the pouring rain, next day its a 30 second pick.

but a humble Bird Cylinder is an unpickable lock for dynolocks judging by the amount of them they drill.
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Postby n2oah » 6 Sep 2005 16:02

There is a 14 page thread about making an unpickable lock, and there were some pretty good ideas and pictures thrown around in that thread. Look on pages 12-14 for my posts :wink:

Theroretically (murdered the spelling, I know) Unpickable Locks
Medeco 3rd Gen BiAxial 7 Pin Lock
Evva 3KS
Abloy Protec (with or without CLIQ)- this lock may actually be "unpickable" because of it's DBS.
Mul-t-lock Interactive CLIQ
There are many many more, Do you reasearch
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Postby devildog » 6 Sep 2005 18:25

DBS?
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Postby n2oah » 6 Sep 2005 19:14

devildog wrote:DBS?


Disc Blocking System. It prevents the individual discs from being manipulated at the same time. More info here http://www.toool.nl/abloypart3.pdf
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Postby hp » 6 Sep 2005 19:28

well its nice to know that all locks are pickable, i was just stating to wonder b/c on the lock i got to practice with the 4th pin wont go up, it will with a paper clip but it bends in the lock :evil: i guess i need a lot more work on my pick
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Postby toomush2drink » 6 Sep 2005 19:51

but a humble Bird Cylinder is an unpickable lock for dynolocks judging by the amount of them they drill.


How on earth can anybody waste a drill bit on one of these ? Mind due judging by their prices they can afford it, guy down the road from me got charged £150 to have his euro cylinder changed and he didnt know i was only a minutes walk from him :roll: and a lot lot less.
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Postby Chucklz » 6 Sep 2005 19:58

From what I understand of euro cylinders... they seemed to be designed for the average person to replace right? Unscrew the retaining screw and slide the euro out? slide new cylinder in and tighten screw... Or am I missing some powerful magic?
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