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Schlage Cut-Away Practice Lock.... is defect? :(

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Schlage Cut-Away Practice Lock.... is defect? :(

Postby luckyharry » 17 Sep 2005 5:23

I bought this see-through lock: http://www.lockpicks.com/index.asp?Page ... strCompare

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and a Euro pickset.


Unfortunately, all I have to do to pick this lock, is to press the middle pin a little bit up, and it turns. All the other pins are aligned/sheer-line by default.
There's no picking on this lock at all, and there's really no learning or challenge in it.

Is it supposed to be that way? It cost 45$! Which is a lot!
It's more than what a 22 pc pickset costs :-S
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Postby Chrispy » 17 Sep 2005 5:36

You've got a couple of options.

1) You can return the lock to the supplier and explain your case and hope for a refund/exchange.

2) You can repin it, either by putting in completely new pins or by swapping the existing pins around (the key won't operate it though)

3) You can go around to all your friends and show them your amazing picking skills...

"Look guys, I can pick this high security lock in 1.75 seconds!!" :P
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Some things may be pick proof, but everything can be bypassed....
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Postby raimundo » 17 Sep 2005 8:36

It could be that they expect you to repin it, and left the shearline as it was as a clule for newbies to see how that works. For a lock to have pins at the shear when no key is in it requires some very long pins. Such a bitting could be very tricky for someone trying to pick it and thinking it was a more ordinary bitting because they would be overlifting all those pins. too bad they didnt give you a key with it.
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Postby Chrispy » 17 Sep 2005 8:42

Did they give you a key with it?
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Postby luckyharry » 17 Sep 2005 10:55

It might be for noobs, but still, they sell it as if it is for professional training. Here's a picture:

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The key is actually quite hilly, but the pins are pyramid-shaped in the bottom, so it will turn tho it's not entirely in place. In this case, so much, that even though the pins are well out of sheer line, they are push into sheer line by the tension. I guess I'd have to change the pins.

But then, they'd better cough up for the lack of value in this product.
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Postby Chucklz » 17 Sep 2005 12:41

The top pins should be flat on both sides (well they probably have a very very slight round over, but you certainly shouldnt be able to see it from casual inspection). The botom pins should have one "flat" end and one pointy end. The pointy end should face towards the key, that is down. IS your lock different from this?
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