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American Padlock Double Sided Cylinder Question

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American Padlock Double Sided Cylinder Question

Postby Mike O » 14 Mar 2006 14:30

I would like information on disassembly and rekeying of American double sided cylinders. I have a number of old American Padlocks (3 series L50, 1 series 50, 1 series K60, and several smaller ones with no series markings)
I have the locks open and the cylinders are out, and now I need some help and advice.

1. How do I get the wafers out of the cylinder?

2. Is there a "key gauge" for American double sided keys? I'm not sure how it would work, but you would think there would be one.

3. I will inevitably need new wafers since I plan to key them alike. Any tips on finding wafers for these? I see lots of pin sets for sale, and a few wafers, but I don't think I have ever seen wafers for these locks anywhere.

I have some old Junkung Bros keys. I plan to use one of those for the "new key," however I am having trouble visualizing the process of getting from the key... to figuring out which new wafers I need.

And lastly, I need to know how to get them into the cylinder.

I searched LP101, but I haven't run across a guide for double sided or double bitted American locks. If there is one please point me in that direction.
Thanks for any assistance.
Mike O
 
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Postby dsdayl » 27 Mar 2006 23:15

As to how to get the wafers out. Read this:
viewtopic.php?t=10541&highlight=wafer+guide

If your lock is different from that like my only wafer lock is there might be a little itty bitty wafer past all the others holding it all together. Press that and it might come apart like mine does.

I know that for American's double bitted waveform keys they recommend that you order a keyed plug from the fatory by code.

Also if you want to attempt to rekey yourself there is a service kit you can probably get by contacting American directly.

Althoough the process sounds kind of iffy to me. You need to remove the old tumblers and insert the new ones.

Now I'm guessing they are all the same configuration because after that you have to insert your new operating key (make sure it is fully inserted) and using a hole saw or grinder remove the excess material from the disc tumblers until they are flush with the outside diameter of the plug.
:roll:

Probably easier to just get the replacement cylinders.

Anyway if you want to read it for yourself look here on the bottom of page 23
www.mllit.com/pdf/A-004.pdf

There is a key guage on page 28 of that same pdf file. It says that all American locks use the same key depth and spacing.

Hope this helps and good luck
If all else fails, change your syntax and search again.
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Thanks!

Postby Mike O » 28 Mar 2006 17:22

That's exactly what I needed. Thank you dsdayl.

I had read the "101 Wafer Guide" several times before, thinking I must have missed something, but it doesn't really help much as far as the American waveforms go. The .pdf file is very informative.
Mike O
 
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Postby dsdayl » 28 Mar 2006 22:52

No problem. :)
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