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ABUS No. 41 padlock help

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ABUS No. 41 padlock help

Postby WDPaladin » 31 Mar 2006 23:22

Anyone know if the ABUS No. 41 padlock has any security pins or anything? Also, I believe it only turns one direction, can anyone verify this? I dont have a key for it so Im flying blind on this one, thanks for the help.
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Postby Keyring » 1 Apr 2006 17:13

I don't think I've come across a padlock which would turn anti-clockwise.

The 41 is claimed by Abus to have mushroom pins (Präzisions-Stift-Zylinder mit Pilzkopfstiften). Usually they turn out to be spool pins, when they claim this. Sometimes the smallest padlock in a particular range doesn't have spools. I would suspect the 41/30 not to be so secure as the others, it only has a single direction bolt.
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Postby illusion » 1 Apr 2006 17:23

The Squire Stronghold 'dunno the the model' padlock can turn in either direction to unlock. :)

If you turn and you feel it binding in both directions it will open in both directions.
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Postby Keyring » 1 Apr 2006 17:26

Oh interesting. Does that mean it's only a single bolt mechanism?
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Postby illusion » 1 Apr 2006 17:29

Keyring wrote:Oh interesting. Does that mean it's only a single bolt mechanism?


I seem to remember it being a dual bolt meachnism but I'll check tomorrow. :)
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Postby jamesphilhulk2 » 1 Apr 2006 19:52

Keyring wrote:
Abus Padlocks (based on my collection)

65/50 has 5 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others)
65/40 has 5 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others)
65/35 has 4 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others)
65/30 has 4 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others)
65/20 has 3 pins (no security pins)


I posted this recently in another topic but it is probably is appropriate to just repeat int here. The 65 is just a series number I think. The second number is the width of the padlock in mm but if it ends in 5 it means a longer shackle than usual (the 35 is 39 mm wide).


dont know if it helps or not
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Postby WDPaladin » 1 Apr 2006 20:28

Thanks for the help, now to start workin on this d@mn thing..
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Postby skold » 1 Apr 2006 20:46

Keyring wrote:Oh interesting. Does that mean it's only a single bolt mechanism?


Lockwood 234 (australia) turn both ways to unlock but is a single bolt mechanism.

If illusions lock turns both ways and is single bolt i would assume it uses locking balls.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 1 Apr 2006 22:40

All you have to do is rake till false set, the fine tune with a hook, gently realsing tension after you feel a security pin. You will know this buy the cylinder pushing back against you tension wrench. This method has never failed me give it a try.






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Postby SS454 » 2 Apr 2006 0:41

My biggest problem with these is not the spool pins at all, but rather the ward.

It has a diagnal ward that make sit very difficult to get my pick in there.
There's no replacement for displacement.
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Postby mh » 2 Apr 2006 11:54

SS454 wrote:My biggest problem with these is not the spool pins at all, but rather the ward.

It has a diagnal ward that make sit very difficult to get my pick in there.


After all, it's a German lock :) , so you would probably be better off using the 'European' = smaller versions of the tools to pick it.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 2 Apr 2006 21:29

I agree with the slim line suggestion. But till you aquire or fabricate some keep working at it. Being about to open sucha small keywayed lock with regular tools is a very repectable skill to have. Good luck in anycase buddy

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Postby WDPaladin » 2 Apr 2006 22:09

Yea its definitely a tiny keyway, I almost cant get the pick to the back pins without jamming up against the tension wrench or the front pins. Ah well, thanks for all the help guys.
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Postby SS454 » 3 Apr 2006 9:26

mh wrote:
SS454 wrote:My biggest problem with these is not the spool pins at all, but rather the ward.

It has a diagnal ward that make sit very difficult to get my pick in there.


After all, it's a German lock :) , so you would probably be better off using the 'European' = smaller versions of the tools to pick it.



I'm not really familiar with european tools. Same thing but smaller? :?

On American locks, I actually use one of the wards as a fulcrum to manuever the pick. But with the slanted ward on the abus, I can't so this, so I have to use this free-floating approach, which is more clumsy and inaccurate.
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Postby mh » 3 Apr 2006 10:53

SS454 wrote:I'm not really familiar with european tools. Same thing but smaller? :?

Yep, also called 'slimline'.
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