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by WDPaladin » 31 Mar 2006 23:22
Anyone know if the ABUS No. 41 padlock has any security pins or anything? Also, I believe it only turns one direction, can anyone verify this? I dont have a key for it so Im flying blind on this one, thanks for the help.
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by Keyring » 1 Apr 2006 17:13
I don't think I've come across a padlock which would turn anti-clockwise.
The 41 is claimed by Abus to have mushroom pins (Präzisions-Stift-Zylinder mit Pilzkopfstiften). Usually they turn out to be spool pins, when they claim this. Sometimes the smallest padlock in a particular range doesn't have spools. I would suspect the 41/30 not to be so secure as the others, it only has a single direction bolt.
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by illusion » 1 Apr 2006 17:23
The Squire Stronghold 'dunno the the model' padlock can turn in either direction to unlock.
If you turn and you feel it binding in both directions it will open in both directions.
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by Keyring » 1 Apr 2006 17:26
Oh interesting. Does that mean it's only a single bolt mechanism?
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by illusion » 1 Apr 2006 17:29
Keyring wrote:Oh interesting. Does that mean it's only a single bolt mechanism?
I seem to remember it being a dual bolt meachnism but I'll check tomorrow. 
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by jamesphilhulk2 » 1 Apr 2006 19:52
Keyring wrote:Abus Padlocks (based on my collection)
65/50 has 5 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others) 65/40 has 5 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others) 65/35 has 4 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others) 65/30 has 4 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others) 65/20 has 3 pins (no security pins)
I posted this recently in another topic but it is probably is appropriate to just repeat int here. The 65 is just a series number I think. The second number is the width of the padlock in mm but if it ends in 5 it means a longer shackle than usual (the 35 is 39 mm wide).
dont know if it helps or not
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by WDPaladin » 1 Apr 2006 20:28
Thanks for the help, now to start workin on this d@mn thing..
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by skold » 1 Apr 2006 20:46
Keyring wrote:Oh interesting. Does that mean it's only a single bolt mechanism?
Lockwood 234 (australia) turn both ways to unlock but is a single bolt mechanism.
If illusions lock turns both ways and is single bolt i would assume it uses locking balls.
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by LockNewbie21 » 1 Apr 2006 22:40
All you have to do is rake till false set, the fine tune with a hook, gently realsing tension after you feel a security pin. You will know this buy the cylinder pushing back against you tension wrench. This method has never failed me give it a try.
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by SS454 » 2 Apr 2006 0:41
My biggest problem with these is not the spool pins at all, but rather the ward.
It has a diagnal ward that make sit very difficult to get my pick in there.
There's no replacement for displacement.
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by mh » 2 Apr 2006 11:54
SS454 wrote:My biggest problem with these is not the spool pins at all, but rather the ward.
It has a diagnal ward that make sit very difficult to get my pick in there.
After all, it's a German lock  , so you would probably be better off using the 'European' = smaller versions of the tools to pick it.
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by LockNewbie21 » 2 Apr 2006 21:29
I agree with the slim line suggestion. But till you aquire or fabricate some keep working at it. Being about to open sucha small keywayed lock with regular tools is a very repectable skill to have. Good luck in anycase buddy
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by WDPaladin » 2 Apr 2006 22:09
Yea its definitely a tiny keyway, I almost cant get the pick to the back pins without jamming up against the tension wrench or the front pins. Ah well, thanks for all the help guys.
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by SS454 » 3 Apr 2006 9:26
mh wrote:SS454 wrote:My biggest problem with these is not the spool pins at all, but rather the ward.
It has a diagnal ward that make sit very difficult to get my pick in there.
After all, it's a German lock  , so you would probably be better off using the 'European' = smaller versions of the tools to pick it.
I'm not really familiar with european tools. Same thing but smaller?
On American locks, I actually use one of the wards as a fulcrum to manuever the pick. But with the slanted ward on the abus, I can't so this, so I have to use this free-floating approach, which is more clumsy and inaccurate.
There's no replacement for displacement.
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by mh » 3 Apr 2006 10:53
SS454 wrote:I'm not really familiar with european tools. Same thing but smaller?
Yep, also called 'slimline'.
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