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by martinnn » 11 Oct 2006 17:29
Having problems finding locksmith tools in Toronto Canada, All u.s sites do not ship to Canada. Do I need a licence.?? 
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by UWSDWF » 11 Oct 2006 17:40
martinnn wrote:Having problems finding locksmith tools in Toronto Canada, All u.s sites do not ship to Canada. Do I need a licence.?? 
no and just buy from anywhere and they won't bother you
try www.lockpickshop.com
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by unbreakable » 11 Oct 2006 17:56
AT lockpickshop.com, if you enter "LP101"in as a coupon code, you will get 10% off!
Also, they will ship to Canada.
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by bumpit » 11 Oct 2006 22:41
I fully recommend lockpickshop.com and I live in Canada.
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by martinnn » 11 Oct 2006 22:48
Is it true that it takes week to deliver do to costums??
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by bumpit » 12 Oct 2006 0:31
Is it true that it takes week to deliver do to costums??
Why would it matter?
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by UWSDWF » 12 Oct 2006 9:39
who is telling you these rumours? kick them in the head
no it doesn't take weeks
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by martinnn » 12 Oct 2006 17:30
I called every single locksmith / locksmith supply in Toronto and found absoluty nothing when it comes to buying tool. They all wanted was a Licence and a backround cheack regerstration and on and on. Whats the deel ??Their are on laws against selling locksmith tools get I have these problems. One locksmith said its illigal to pick locks in my own home, is that true??I understand the possesion break & enter tools part, if someone walks around with thier tool for no reason sound be charged with suspition of being a dumass. and is looking for trouble from police.
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by UWSDWF » 12 Oct 2006 18:05
martinnn wrote:I called every single locksmith / locksmith supply in Toronto and found absoluty nothing when it comes to buying tool. They all wanted was a Licence and a backround cheack regerstration and on and on. Whats the deel ??Their are on laws against selling locksmith tools get I have these problems. One locksmith said its illigal to pick locks in my own home, is that true??I understand the possesion break & enter tools part, if someone walks around with thier tool for no reason sound be charged with suspition of being a dumass. and is looking for trouble from police.
going by the word of the law tools are anything used to break in there by meaning if you used a toothbrush to break in to something you could be charged for having that tooth brush, it all depends on the context to why you are being stopped. good idea having lock picks in your house for practising bad idea being in an alley way at 0300hrs with a set of picks and a ski mask..
are you going to find a place like jovan to sell to you with out practical cause or reason? no cause they are covering their butts fromk possible future legal actions... the lockie you were talking to is simply trying to scare you as many do bottom line just byt the F'n picks online somewhere and believe me I live in toronto I pick locks as a hobby I have many picks and I'm not a locksmith
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by martinnn » 12 Oct 2006 18:21
Are thier eny lockpicking groups in Toronto??
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by UWSDWF » 12 Oct 2006 18:39
martinnn wrote:Are thier eny lockpicking groups in Toronto??
i'm trying, numbers are too low to make it work as of yet PM if interested
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by Shrub » 12 Oct 2006 19:44
Wholesalers and locksmiths will not sell you picks, its their right not to and they exorcise it, i also wouldnt sell them to someone in my area,
It is however recconised by most online firms that hobby/sport picking is legit and will bend the rules although they do have the warnings to cover their butts incase somthign does go wrong also they want and need the money,
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by bumpit » 12 Oct 2006 20:41
It is possible they could ask you for some information proving you are involved in law enforcement or Locksmithing to prove you are legitimate.
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by pH » 12 Oct 2006 20:51
bumpit wrote:It is possible they could ask you for some information proving you are involved in law enforcement or Locksmithing to prove you are legitimate.
They might, especially if you try to buy pre-cut bump keys. lockpickshop.com, lockpicks.com, and peterson won't ask you for proof if you're buying regular tools (I know this from personal experience). If they ask, be honest and say you are a serious hobbyist, don't lie and tell them you're a locksmith. They might end up asking for some type of proof in which case you'll be stuck with the "uh, well I don't have that right here, let me call you back, yeah...." and you'll feel foolish afterwards.
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by Romstar » 12 Oct 2006 20:53
martinnn wrote:I called every single locksmith / locksmith supply in Toronto and found absoluty nothing when it comes to buying tool. They all wanted was a Licence and a backround cheack regerstration and on and on. Whats the deel ??Their are on laws against selling locksmith tools get I have these problems. One locksmith said its illigal to pick locks in my own home, is that true??I understand the possesion break & enter tools part, if someone walks around with thier tool for no reason sound be charged with suspition of being a dumass. and is looking for trouble from police.
I am going to try and put this in language that is simple and easy to understand.
YOU WERE LIED TO!!!
There is not other way to put this.
There is absolutely NO license in Ontario. None, ZIP, NADA!!!!
They can't ask for something that doesn't exist, and they do this to see if you fall for it. They can ask if you have a registered business, or a tax number, or to get a business card from you, or to see a copy of your ad, but there is absolutely no license in Ontario. So far as I am aware, there aren't even city licenses.
There is no background check, and they can't even ask for one by law. No supplier can ever ask for a background check unless you are going to be employed by them, then they can only ask if you are OFFERED the job. It can't be asked for before hand.
The locksmith who said it's illegal to pick locks in your home is most likely one of these old guys who believes that you never let this information fall into the hands of the public. Of course he'll lie to you. He'll probably also tell you that you can't install certain locks on your house, and that a Schlage B160 is a high security lock.
You got the last part right, but even just walking around with the picks isn't illegal in and of itself. Only if you are doing something illegal. You may get asked by an officer why you have the picks, but unless he can connect you to something, he can't even legally take them from you. I strongly urge you to be honest and polite with any peace office you encounter, but under no circumstance allow yourself to be bullied by anyone. Including the police.
If you are not 18 or older, please talk about this hobby with your parents, make sure they know what you are doing so that if something ever does happen (god forbid) that they will be there to support you. Even if its against a cop who doesn't know the law.
As for getting comercial picks, you have a few choices.
Relatively speaking, its cheap to register a business name. They you are a locksmith. Take the Foley-Belsaw course if you interested enough, and then register a business. Just the student ID is often enough for most supply companies to sell you tools.
If you don't want to do any of that, simply purchase from http://www.lockpicks.com or our sponsor http://www.lockpickshop.com In any case, both companies ship to Canada, and you won't have any difficulties at all.
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