Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

HPC Computer Generated Pick Set

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
Forum rules
Do not post safe related questions in this sub forum! Post them in This Old Safe

The sub forum you are currently in is for asking Beginner Hobby Lock Picking questions only.

HPC Computer Generated Pick Set

Postby lockjaw » 27 Nov 2006 20:34

The HPC Computer Generated Pick Set (see http://www.hpcworld.com/Picks/p_comp1.htm) has received somewhat mixed reviews on this forum.

I'm one of those owners that hasn't had any success with these picks. For the benefit of those that own these picks and can't work them properly can a member that has a set and is able to use them correctly please explain the technique.

The enclosed instructions are very brief. Is the technique a 'jiggle' with a slow withdrawal or is it a repeated parallel lift with a withdrawal.

Video footage of a successful opening using the Set would be most appreciated.
lockjaw
 
Posts: 58
Joined: 29 Oct 2006 1:16
Location: Victoria, Australia

Postby kodierer » 27 Nov 2006 20:54

Just use them like a rake. I don't own any, but thats how I understand them. I hate raking so I'll probably never buy a set, but I'm sure if you just rake back and forth with the different picks using different tensions, different paces maybe, etc.. You will eventually have success with something.
Image
kodierer
 
Posts: 819
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 12:45
Location: Utah

Postby lockjaw » 27 Nov 2006 20:58

kodierer wrote:Just use them like a rake. I don't own any, but thats how I understand them. I hate raking so I'll probably never buy a set, but I'm sure if you just rake back and forth with the different picks using different tensions, different paces maybe, etc.. You will eventually have success with something.


No, the instructions explicitly state that the picks are not to be used as rakes. They are too thin and delicate for raking, you will surely destroy them if you use them as rakes.
lockjaw
 
Posts: 58
Joined: 29 Oct 2006 1:16
Location: Victoria, Australia

Postby Gordon Airporte » 27 Nov 2006 22:58

My only expeience with profile picks is the King and Queen set, but the big thing is to bounce the tension constantly. You're trying to open the lock with every tiny change in position of the profile.
So shift a little, apply tension, let off, shift again, etc., etc.
Image
Gordon Airporte
 
Posts: 812
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 13:22
Location: Baltimore

Postby Romstar » 28 Nov 2006 1:24

I posted a tutorial about these things a while ago, and its been reposted a few times.

These are called profile picks. The intent is to get the picks to mimic the pattern of a key so that it will ift the pins, and open the lock.

There are two considerations here, these aren't magic wands.

The first is; Are you using the right pick? There are several picks, and you may not be using the right one. If you have tried both side of the pick and nothing happens, move on to another pick and try again.

The secnd is; Are you using the proper technique?

When the pick is inserted into the lock, you lift it up, and "wiggle" it in a figure 8 motion. A little up, a little down, a little in and out. Vary the angle of the pick aproximately +/- 5 degrees.

Generally speaking, as you move the pick, it will lift and lower the pins acordingly, and simulate various key bittings.

Gordon also had an appropriate instruction. You want to be moving the tension wrench gently as you move the pick. That way, it will actually let you get past some security pins without even having to fight with them.

Keep trying, and you will get it.
Romstar
Image
Romstar
 
Posts: 2823
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 3:13
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

Postby Wolfe » 30 Jan 2007 19:11

Feel free to correct me if im wrong. They are used as key doublegangers or like mentioned by Rom they mimic the correct key. so very little movement is nessasary (just a little jiggle up n down then move it a lil in or out then repeat) and they will set the pins like the correct key would. But the key is finding the right pick for the job. You can use them as a rake and it will work rather well, but thats not really the correct technic with the possibility of damaging the picks.
Wolfe
 
Posts: 247
Joined: 9 Jan 2007 11:56
Location: East Coast


Return to Got Questions? - Ask Beginner Hobby Lockpicking Questions Here

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests