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by lockjaw » 27 Nov 2006 20:34
The HPC Computer Generated Pick Set (see http://www.hpcworld.com/Picks/p_comp1.htm) has received somewhat mixed reviews on this forum.
I'm one of those owners that hasn't had any success with these picks. For the benefit of those that own these picks and can't work them properly can a member that has a set and is able to use them correctly please explain the technique.
The enclosed instructions are very brief. Is the technique a 'jiggle' with a slow withdrawal or is it a repeated parallel lift with a withdrawal.
Video footage of a successful opening using the Set would be most appreciated.
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by kodierer » 27 Nov 2006 20:54
Just use them like a rake. I don't own any, but thats how I understand them. I hate raking so I'll probably never buy a set, but I'm sure if you just rake back and forth with the different picks using different tensions, different paces maybe, etc.. You will eventually have success with something.
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by lockjaw » 27 Nov 2006 20:58
kodierer wrote:Just use them like a rake. I don't own any, but thats how I understand them. I hate raking so I'll probably never buy a set, but I'm sure if you just rake back and forth with the different picks using different tensions, different paces maybe, etc.. You will eventually have success with something.
No, the instructions explicitly state that the picks are not to be used as rakes. They are too thin and delicate for raking, you will surely destroy them if you use them as rakes.
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by Gordon Airporte » 27 Nov 2006 22:58
My only expeience with profile picks is the King and Queen set, but the big thing is to bounce the tension constantly. You're trying to open the lock with every tiny change in position of the profile.
So shift a little, apply tension, let off, shift again, etc., etc.
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by Romstar » 28 Nov 2006 1:24
I posted a tutorial about these things a while ago, and its been reposted a few times.
These are called profile picks. The intent is to get the picks to mimic the pattern of a key so that it will ift the pins, and open the lock.
There are two considerations here, these aren't magic wands.
The first is; Are you using the right pick? There are several picks, and you may not be using the right one. If you have tried both side of the pick and nothing happens, move on to another pick and try again.
The secnd is; Are you using the proper technique?
When the pick is inserted into the lock, you lift it up, and "wiggle" it in a figure 8 motion. A little up, a little down, a little in and out. Vary the angle of the pick aproximately +/- 5 degrees.
Generally speaking, as you move the pick, it will lift and lower the pins acordingly, and simulate various key bittings.
Gordon also had an appropriate instruction. You want to be moving the tension wrench gently as you move the pick. That way, it will actually let you get past some security pins without even having to fight with them.
Keep trying, and you will get it.
Romstar

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by Wolfe » 30 Jan 2007 19:11
Feel free to correct me if im wrong. They are used as key doublegangers or like mentioned by Rom they mimic the correct key. so very little movement is nessasary (just a little jiggle up n down then move it a lil in or out then repeat) and they will set the pins like the correct key would. But the key is finding the right pick for the job. You can use them as a rake and it will work rather well, but thats not really the correct technic with the possibility of damaging the picks.
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