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Just signed up for Foley-Belsaw locksmithing school...

Wondering which locksmith course to take? Looking for locksmith license info for your locale? This is the forum for you.

Postby technik » 24 Apr 2004 20:29

so does anyone know of any similar 'home-school' locksmthing courses in Australia? Much appreciated

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Postby lock_assassin » 25 Apr 2004 6:18

technic,

Maybe Foley-Belsaw can send their course to you? I know it may not cover some of the locks you deal with in Australia but I think it is a pretty decent course. It might even be worth checking out a local tech school or community college because there are a few around here that teach courses they don't advertise. Anyway good luck with your search!!!

On another note, I was able to finish lessons 21-25 yesterday. Doing the masterkey system was pretty easy since they had already worked out the combinations for you, but it does give you "hands on" on how the pins all work with master pins installed. I still say the hardest part of masterkeying is getting the system set up on paper first!!!

Impressioning without taking the lock apart is a challenge for sure. Just find the marks and file SLOW. It took me 1 broken key, one filed too deep, and one with a crack from me turning too hard to get it right. The fourth key worked out great. I just gotta learn not to file so much at a time and how much tension is needed to mark the key.

One lesson covered the Schlage Wafer Lock in pretty good detail. Now I really am going to try to find one to use as a practice lock! Very simple design and without going into a lot of detail very easy to master/grandmasterkey. I know now why Prodigy said they can be opened with a rake & standard tension wrench. I thought they were going to be more complex than they were, but after seeing what is going on inside it's pretty simple.

Another course covered the BEST IC locks. Definetly some does & dont's with those locks. Also interesting how the cores come out. Enough said.

Last paragraph I promise! The Emhart lock is one I have never seen before. It is a high security lock so I won't say much about it.
It looks like a challenge to pick but I bet it can be done. The book says picking is not an option on this lock but I bet someone out there has done it. Very interesting setup. Sorry to be so long-winded (AGAIN!!!) but this set of lessons was really fun. I will let you know when 26-30 arrive. I think I get my key machine soon too.

Happy picking...

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Postby technik » 25 Apr 2004 6:56

do you reckon they would send them to me? It would cost heaps though... Any thoughts?
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Postby lock_assassin » 25 Apr 2004 7:16

Might not hurt to ask. I would guess when you order something from the US the shipping would be about the same for the course lesson shipments. They send everything via the US Postal Service but I don't know what the cost would be going to you. It costs me $3.50 everytime I send a lesson set back to them. If you pay up front they cover all the shipping there and back but I didn't want to fork over $700 in one whack. I paid $19 down and $37 a month until it is paid for. I will pay it off so I can get my diplomas as soon as I complete the course but for now it leaves me extra cash to buy new tools and supplies. If you like I can call them next week for you (to save the cost of an overseas call) and ask if they send courses to Australia. I am on vacation so it won't be a problem. I can PM you or post info on public forum if they will ship outside the USA.

Just let me know...

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Postby Minus » 25 Apr 2004 16:24

lock_assassin: i received my key machine with lessons 26-30(it deals with cutting keys) so you should be getting it with the next set of lessons.
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Postby Lockpick Dan » 27 Apr 2004 18:11

I'm going to start foley-belsaw, but i was just wondering about how lonc it takes till they start lowering prices and giving away the pickgun, just wondering if it is worth it to wait a while.
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Postby Minus » 27 Apr 2004 20:40

Each month it got cheaper, it eventually got down to $600 with the pickgun as a bonus and thats when i signed up.
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Postby technik » 28 Apr 2004 1:37

they have a website? maybe I can email them. Lock assasin, pm me when you call them dude, much appreciated

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Postby lock_assassin » 28 Apr 2004 11:44

technik,

I did PM you Monday AM, must have not made it to you. I sent another one this morning so let me know if it shows up or not.

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Postby lock_assassin » 28 Apr 2004 15:43

Here is a link to the Enrollment Form for Foreign Students for Foley-Belsaw if anyone is interested. I got this from the school and scanned it in .pdf format. I did try printing it and it prints full size on my printer. Also if you have any questions their website is http://www.foley-belsaw.com .

http://home.comcast.net/~oscar621/fb_foreign.pdf

Varjeal said he would move this to the FAQ section so it will be easy for everyone to find.

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Postby Lockpick Dan » 30 Apr 2004 18:34

About how much cheaper per month did it get? I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to wait a while. thanks in advance.
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Postby davidgjr » 30 Apr 2004 21:07

I think 19 dollars down and 37 dollars a month is as low as they will go.
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Postby Steve13 » 15 May 2004 18:02

So what is the lowest price that FB will offer? The one I just received is $250 off with the pick gun included.
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Postby lock_assassin » 21 May 2004 20:14

Lowest offer I got was the $19 down and $37 a month.

BUT I DID GET MY KEY MACHINE TODAY!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

As soon as I get the digital camera working again I will snap some pics of it if anyone is interested. Nothing fancy but it will do the job!!!

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Postby Lockpick Dan » 30 May 2004 20:06

I signed up last thursday, my family wants me to have something productive to do over the summer so they wouldn't let me wait, but we managed to convince them to give me the pick gun :D . Do they ship by priority mail and how long would you guys guess it will take?
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