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by carse » 13 Jan 2007 0:18
is there any real reason why master no 3 padlock has a loose plug,
never saw any other padlock doing that.?
show me an honest person and i will show you a liar.....
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by Krypos » 13 Jan 2007 0:35
mine is loose as well. it actually is a bit annoying to tension the thing sometimes.
the no. 3 isnt exactly a fine piece of work, its more of a cheap, yet reliable name brand lock. many many people use this type of padlock from master. so its probably just loose because it makes it cheaper to produce so many.
also, it may be to help from getting a gunked up lock. many padlocks that are out in the harsh weather conditions will start to get harder to open and will rust and get all nasty, this may be a cheap way to help prevent that. (mostly the turning of the key in the plug gets hard to do when the lock is all weathered)
so maybe its a combo of those things or others or all. again, its not the finest lock available, and there are tons of them, so its not exactly a surprise that it is thrown together. 
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by carse » 13 Jan 2007 1:07
yes i have to put tention on the plug in a certain way otherwise the darn thing
gives me a headace to pick, by the way i am still battleling to single pick after all this time, raked it open a couple of times but at the end of the day its is not really picking, i guess i am a slow learner.
anyway ,wandering if you know if there is another padlock with the same type of loose plug.
lockpicking for me is at this moment still a way to relax, although sometimes while sleeping i am dreaming about locks, and even in my dreams i dont succeed
locks is actually becoming a obsession to me ,when i see a padlock where ever, i have to check the name and plug opening
that is when my wife and i are shopping, she sometimes just smiles, not understanding a mans need to brag about his knowledge about locks.
yes i know i need help.
sorry my mind wandering again.

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by Nicky the Greek » 13 Jan 2007 19:15
My no. 3 has a loose plug as well. But i have the opposite problem it's the easiest thing to pick. My master lock no. 40 however gives me headaches. I can never seem to get the tension right and it very rarely seems to want to turn over.
Yes i know i can't spell and no i didn't do it
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by Bob M » 14 Jan 2007 1:29
I'm having the same problem, tried and sucessfully picked one in a few minutes, ONCE. I thought 'that was easy', more than 2 more hours, and several pick styles, no go. My sample is very loose, also.
Had better luck with a # 81, got a feel for the spools, and hit them first-2 I think- it too has a loose plug, but not as loose as the # 3.
Good luck
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by docdredd » 17 Jan 2007 18:55
yeah i picked one up last night and it has the same loose cylinder. way easy to pick raking or spp, as long as you got the tension down pat.
the #3 is the kalashnikov of the lock world  haha loose tolerances so they dont bind up. but they work when they are needed
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by Krypos » 17 Jan 2007 20:37
yes it is! it is the kalashnikov of the lock world! nice analogy.
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by Deathadder » 17 Jan 2007 21:00
The M4A1 is better 
It's ok guys, i have a really bad attention sp-wow look, a beach!
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by UWSDWF » 17 Jan 2007 21:03
Deathadder wrote:The M4A1 is better 
yes and no
the Kalishnakov 47 can be operated by mentally diasabled hamsters and never jam due to getting dirty or wet or what have you
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by Deathadder » 17 Jan 2007 21:17
Bah, personal preference
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by zeke79 » 17 Jan 2007 21:26
I realize alot of changes have been made to the stoner design, but ask any vietnam veteran which they would rather have, the Stoner M16 or an AK. They'll pick AK everytime as long as the sound of the action did not draw friendly fire  .
It has been refined alot over the years (ie, forward assist etc), but the M series of rifles are still nowhere near as reliable as an AK when it comes to combat situations where cleaning and maintenance come into play. The M series will shoot circles around the AK in accuracy but being able to hold 1MOA on the range is not a combat situation. If I had to pick between the two for a survival weapon where no parts or cleaning tools where available I'd grab the AK without hesitation.
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by docdredd » 17 Jan 2007 22:54
hell i even carried one when i was in baghdad. medics were only issued 9mm. so the first ak we took from an insurgent i kept. worked great. but not nearly as accurate.
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by Krypos » 18 Jan 2007 5:20
anyone seen lord of war? with nicholas cage?
i loved his little spiel on the ak47 in that movie. ill post it later (as in hours later)
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by raimundo » 18 Jan 2007 14:06
Are you sure that the thing that is loose is the plug? master laminated padlocks have a loose cylinder, and before your tensor even reachs the plug, it has a friction action against the bottom cap lamination. look for a lot of shiny metal there if you have been picking one of these a lot. thats where the tensor was dragging on the lamination. Masters are loose locks so maybe it is your plug, but the whole cylinder is also very loose because its held in a cavity larger than itself. this may be masters 'security feature' Aks are often junk, made in china or egypt or even in iraq when they had an industry. in vietnam, the chechoslovak AK was considered the best, but now the 47 is obsolete, its the 74, of the smaller caliber that is used. who know the ratio of AK47 to M16 in weight? fully loaded.
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by mjwhit » 18 Jan 2007 14:22
anyone seen lord of war? with nicholas cage?
i loved his little spiel on the ak47 in that movie. ill post it later (as in hours later)
Yip thats a mean movie...
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