Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

master lock no 3 (plug)

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

master lock no 3 (plug)

Postby carse » 13 Jan 2007 0:18

is there any real reason why master no 3 padlock has a loose plug,
never saw any other padlock doing that.?
show me an honest person and i will show you a liar.....
carse
 
Posts: 64
Joined: 5 Aug 2004 18:55
Location: cape town-south africa

Postby Krypos » 13 Jan 2007 0:35

mine is loose as well. it actually is a bit annoying to tension the thing sometimes.

the no. 3 isnt exactly a fine piece of work, its more of a cheap, yet reliable name brand lock. many many people use this type of padlock from master. so its probably just loose because it makes it cheaper to produce so many.

also, it may be to help from getting a gunked up lock. many padlocks that are out in the harsh weather conditions will start to get harder to open and will rust and get all nasty, this may be a cheap way to help prevent that. (mostly the turning of the key in the plug gets hard to do when the lock is all weathered)

so maybe its a combo of those things or others or all. again, its not the finest lock available, and there are tons of them, so its not exactly a surprise that it is thrown together. :?
Image
Krypos
 
Posts: 1829
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 23:05
Location: Oregon, USA

Postby carse » 13 Jan 2007 1:07

yes i have to put tention on the plug in a certain way otherwise the darn thing
gives me a headace to pick, by the way i am still battleling to single pick after all this time, raked it open a couple of times but at the end of the day its is not really picking, i guess i am a slow learner.
anyway ,wandering if you know if there is another padlock with the same type of loose plug.
lockpicking for me is at this moment still a way to relax, although sometimes while sleeping i am dreaming about locks, and even in my dreams i dont succeed
locks is actually becoming a obsession to me ,when i see a padlock where ever, i have to check the name and plug opening
that is when my wife and i are shopping, she sometimes just smiles, not understanding a mans need to brag about his knowledge about locks.

yes i know i need help.

sorry my mind wandering again.




:lol:
show me an honest person and i will show you a liar.....
carse
 
Posts: 64
Joined: 5 Aug 2004 18:55
Location: cape town-south africa

Postby Nicky the Greek » 13 Jan 2007 19:15

My no. 3 has a loose plug as well. But i have the opposite problem it's the easiest thing to pick. My master lock no. 40 however gives me headaches. I can never seem to get the tension right and it very rarely seems to want to turn over.

Yes i know i can't spell and no i didn't do it

Nick
Nicky the Greek
 
Posts: 93
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 12:54
Location: Arkansas, United States

No. 3 Padlock

Postby Bob M » 14 Jan 2007 1:29

I'm having the same problem, tried and sucessfully picked one in a few minutes, ONCE. I thought 'that was easy', more than 2 more hours, and several pick styles, no go. My sample is very loose, also.

Had better luck with a # 81, got a feel for the spools, and hit them first-2 I think- it too has a loose plug, but not as loose as the # 3.

Good luck
Bob M
 
Posts: 14
Joined: 23 Nov 2006 1:29
Location: E Mass.

Postby docdredd » 17 Jan 2007 18:55

yeah i picked one up last night and it has the same loose cylinder. way easy to pick raking or spp, as long as you got the tension down pat.
the #3 is the kalashnikov of the lock world :D haha loose tolerances so they dont bind up. but they work when they are needed
docdredd
 
Posts: 54
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 21:33
Location: Elizabethtown kentucky

Postby Krypos » 17 Jan 2007 20:37

yes it is! it is the kalashnikov of the lock world! nice analogy.
Image
Krypos
 
Posts: 1829
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 23:05
Location: Oregon, USA

Postby Deathadder » 17 Jan 2007 21:00

The M4A1 is better :D
It's ok guys, i have a really bad attention sp-wow look, a beach!
Deathadder
 
Posts: 546
Joined: 22 May 2006 13:05
Location: Ocala, Florida

Postby UWSDWF » 17 Jan 2007 21:03

Deathadder wrote:The M4A1 is better :D

yes and no

the Kalishnakov 47 can be operated by mentally diasabled hamsters and never jam due to getting dirty or wet or what have you
Image
DISCLAIMER:repeating anything written in the above post may result in dismemberment,arrest,drug and/or alcohol use,scars,injury,death, and midget obsession.
UWSDWF
Supporter
Supporter
 
Posts: 4786
Joined: 27 May 2006 13:01
Location: Toronto, ON. Canada

Postby Deathadder » 17 Jan 2007 21:17

Bah, personal preference
It's ok guys, i have a really bad attention sp-wow look, a beach!
Deathadder
 
Posts: 546
Joined: 22 May 2006 13:05
Location: Ocala, Florida

Postby zeke79 » 17 Jan 2007 21:26

I realize alot of changes have been made to the stoner design, but ask any vietnam veteran which they would rather have, the Stoner M16 or an AK. They'll pick AK everytime as long as the sound of the action did not draw friendly fire :lol: .

It has been refined alot over the years (ie, forward assist etc), but the M series of rifles are still nowhere near as reliable as an AK when it comes to combat situations where cleaning and maintenance come into play. The M series will shoot circles around the AK in accuracy but being able to hold 1MOA on the range is not a combat situation. If I had to pick between the two for a survival weapon where no parts or cleaning tools where available I'd grab the AK without hesitation.
For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
zeke79
Admin Emeritus
 
Posts: 5701
Joined: 1 Sep 2003 14:11
Location: USA

Postby docdredd » 17 Jan 2007 22:54

hell i even carried one when i was in baghdad. medics were only issued 9mm. so the first ak we took from an insurgent i kept. worked great. but not nearly as accurate.
docdredd
 
Posts: 54
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 21:33
Location: Elizabethtown kentucky

Postby Krypos » 18 Jan 2007 5:20

anyone seen lord of war? with nicholas cage?

i loved his little spiel on the ak47 in that movie. ill post it later (as in hours later)
Image
Krypos
 
Posts: 1829
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 23:05
Location: Oregon, USA

aks and master3's

Postby raimundo » 18 Jan 2007 14:06

Are you sure that the thing that is loose is the plug? master laminated padlocks have a loose cylinder, and before your tensor even reachs the plug, it has a friction action against the bottom cap lamination. look for a lot of shiny metal there if you have been picking one of these a lot. thats where the tensor was dragging on the lamination. Masters are loose locks so maybe it is your plug, but the whole cylinder is also very loose because its held in a cavity larger than itself. this may be masters 'security feature' Aks are often junk, made in china or egypt or even in iraq when they had an industry. in vietnam, the chechoslovak AK was considered the best, but now the 47 is obsolete, its the 74, of the smaller caliber that is used. who know the ratio of AK47 to M16 in weight? fully loaded.
raimundo
 
Posts: 7130
Joined: 21 Apr 2004 9:02
Location: Minnneapolis

Postby mjwhit » 18 Jan 2007 14:22

anyone seen lord of war? with nicholas cage?

i loved his little spiel on the ak47 in that movie. ill post it later (as in hours later)


Yip thats a mean movie...
Image
mjwhit
 
Posts: 266
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 19:40
Location: New Zealand

Next

Return to Pick-Fu [Intermediate Skill Level]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests