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Postby world9563 » 24 Feb 2007 10:02

Just wanted to know what you class as criminal record for not being a lock smith i.e. i got a good behaviour bond for common assult in 1989 and that still shows up on crb so does that mean i caint be a locksmith once trained. Just after advice guys not been in trouble since.
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Postby UWSDWF » 24 Feb 2007 10:14

i dunno uk laws but you could most likly apply for a pardon on a case that old and ago
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Postby lockey1963 » 24 Feb 2007 14:18

the conviction would be classed as spent officially and would not count against you as long as over 5 years old with no reoffence.

Apply for a basic disclosure and it will show as a clean record, a basic disclosure is all MLA and ICL ask for, they are interested in your character now and not 18 years ago, everyone can make a mistake when young.

as a guide to when a conviction is spent;

1) a prosecution involving a fine, community service and asbo is considered spent after 5 years.

2 ) a conviction involving prison sentence is considered spent after 11 years

The exception to this is rape , murder , child abuse and kiddie fiddling, these are never considered spent.

you will not have a problem, though sadly in the uk can be a prolific criminal and still trade as a locksmith, wrong i know but fact, nothing to stop you as considered clean.
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Postby JackNco » 24 Feb 2007 16:39

Where abouts in the west midlands are you? good place to start. its not over populated with locksmiths... yet.
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Postby world9563 » 24 Feb 2007 17:09

wolverhampton area
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Postby Mark A » 24 Feb 2007 18:17

JackNCO

You say West mids not over populated with locksmiths yet.

Try telling that to some of the locksmiths I know in the Coventry area that are struggling for work :shock:

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Postby NKT » 25 Feb 2007 11:07

The entire UK seems overpopulated with locksmiths. There's at least 60 where I am, and only 300,000 homes! Travelling a long way would seem to be the only way to get enough work, and even then, self-promotion, cutting prices, being good, etc. all factor in.

We see enough people go down the "training" route, too. People who would be amazed by 101's homemade picks and picking, yet "training" people to be locksmiths on a daily basis, with promises of £1000 a week income for running around with a power drill.

Not a hope.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 25 Feb 2007 16:00

As long as you weren't convicted of B&E crimes and anything else lockey1963 stated you should be ok.
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Postby Raccoon » 25 Feb 2007 21:02

Don't forget about the bank robber who spent time in prison and became a locksmith. Of course, this was in the US, but I don't see how small non-violent non-theft crimes from '89 would affect you today.
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Postby futurelocksmith90 » 26 Feb 2007 17:45

what if you have a drug charge on your juvenile record?
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Postby lockey1963 » 26 Feb 2007 17:58

if possession you wont have a problem as long as spent
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Postby world9563 » 26 Feb 2007 18:25

guys i was in army at time and came home after 6mth tour northern irlerland and my so called wife at time was having offaire with him whilst in ireland and he put his hand up her skirt no knowing i was there i put him in hospital for three weeks but all got charged with was common assult think the police was on my side. THANK GOD he was well know theif to them i was lucky but yet again maybe he was lucky and yet again it takes 2 to tango hence she was divorced asap after still taking me for everything went back to NI to get away from it but here is the giggle lads been married twice since and about to be single again asap me what a fool. SOZ ABOUT SPELLING
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Postby Eyes_Only » 26 Feb 2007 19:47

If the police was "on your side" of this issue you shouldnt have any problems getting employed as a locksmith in my opinion. I think just about anyone would react the same way if they were in that kind of situation.
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Postby Raccoon » 26 Feb 2007 20:19

Eyes_Only wrote:If the police was "on your side" of this issue you shouldnt have any problems getting employed as a locksmith in my opinion. I think just about anyone would react the same way if they were in that kind of situation.


Personal opinion between local officers at the time have no bearing on a criminal record and how it may be viewed by someone, especially in another state/locale. But all things considering, it's not the type of criminal history I would worry about when applying as a locksmith or starting my own business. Few places require such background checks.
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Postby JackNco » 25 Apr 2007 16:09

Mark A wrote:JackNCO

You say West mids not over populated with locksmiths yet.

Try telling that to some of the locksmiths I know in the Coventry area that are struggling for work :shock:

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OK i know this is a long time coming but i just found it

Who are they working for JD Jones seem to have the market cornered here
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