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Simple yes or no question

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Simple yes or no question

Postby DavidMN » 10 Apr 2007 9:47

Hope this is not an advanced topic but I’m just asking for a yes or no. I haven’t tried it yet and did a lot of searching but couldn’t find a definite answer. Can a Mul-T-Lock be bumped with an actual Mul-T-Lock key that is for another lock? The key is not at the greatest depths at all positions. Does this have to apply for dimpled locks too? [my friend just moved in a house with mul-t-locked garden tool shed but with no keys included!] Thanks for your replies.
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Postby UWSDWF » 10 Apr 2007 9:50

in theroy yes if all the cuts on the said key were lower then all the pin codes for the other said lock
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theres videos,

Postby raimundo » 10 Apr 2007 9:55

theres some videos out there, some from that russian site, and the one of the little kid doing it. I don't have links for you but use the search button on this site.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 10 Apr 2007 15:33

I'm not sure about MTL because it's a pin and pin system but for a regular pin tumbler dimple lock the cuts can be all at the lowest position.
If a lock is a puzzle, then its key is the complete picture
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Postby mercurial » 14 Apr 2007 3:38

There isn't a simple yes/no answer, because, as UWSDWF said - if all the cuts on they key you are attempting to bump with happen to be lower than the cuts for the key that opens the lock to be bumped, then in theory, yes, the lock could be bumped with that key.

Also, bear in mind that MulTLock keys are tip-stopped, which complicates things a little & makes bumping potentially even more damaging to the lock. I won't go into any further detail as I am sure this is considered a high security lock, and thus is advanced forum material.

As Rai mentioned, there is some video footage of MulTLocks being bumped, if you search. If I recall correctly, the video of the young kid bumping a MulTLock was a misrepresentation, it was only a cheap knock-off dimple lock he bumps. There is some discussion of this video on Barry Wels' blog from memory.

Good luck with your friend's shed, I doubt you'll get more help without a picture of the shed door and lock in question.

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Postby Jolly Rodgers » 14 Apr 2007 8:01

holy moly 9 posts in a row
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Postby Schuyler » 14 Apr 2007 10:20

why has this been happening lately? It seems to attack without prejudice. :(
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Postby cjames73 » 14 Apr 2007 10:26

i've had it happen a few times too.
good way to boost your post count though :D

also had to re-login a number of times. :evil:
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Postby Shrub » 14 Apr 2007 12:50

If you click submit on a new posting and it goes to webpage unavailable people press back and sumit it again when in fact it submitted the first time, if an error is seen again back again it goes and sumit hit once again, its easy to knock up a few posts in one session, i think 9 in a row equals the most ive had to deal with,
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Re: theres videos,

Postby SmokieD » 15 Apr 2007 6:50

raimundo wrote:theres some videos out there, some from that russian site, and the one of the little kid doing it. I don't have links for you but use the search button on this site.


The Multi T lock company dispute that saying that they had taken out pins to make it bumpable. Sure it can be done, but there well always be naysayers. Until someone takes apart a Multi T lock on video puts it together then bumps it, there will be people doubting it as some sort of magic trick.
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Postby Shrub » 15 Apr 2007 11:19

MTL know their locks can be bumped and had to alter the promo stuff for the latest interactive (which by the way remains unbumped at time of writing), but who cares, i dont need everyone to know what i can or cant do as long as i can do whatever on the door to earn my money i couldnt care less whats said,
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Postby SEVEN » 15 Apr 2007 20:32

no
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shims

Postby samfishers » 16 Apr 2007 20:38

Does all the shims work on all combos or am i just so bad that i destroy all mines

Cause i think not all combo or normal locks have a little spring loaded ball or something!

anser please
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Re: shims

Postby Jaakko » 16 Apr 2007 22:38

samfishers wrote:Does all the shims work on all combos or am i just so bad that i destroy all mines

Cause i think not all combo or normal locks have a little spring loaded ball or something!

anser please

You are on the right track there buddy :) All the locks that can be snapped shut without using the key are almost always able to get shimmed open. Usually locks that employ ball bearings to keep the shackle closed are key-operated only, so they can't be shimmed because there is no spring. So I think you aren't that bad, you just wasn't sure about all the locks you have :)

Does this answer for your question?
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Postby samfishers » 17 Apr 2007 7:32

yeah it does
but i still got plenty of quastions

like does all combination locks have a springed ball to keep them close, cause i dont think so. I have opened a combo lock, like to see the inside. and no, there is no spring or things like taht, so that one could'nt be opened right? :?: :?:
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