MACS and raking

by **Eyes_Only** » 28 Apr 2007 20:55

If you pin a lock with total disregard of MACS with a shallowest pin next the the deepest pin set up, would a regular raking method work? I know some locks with pretty progressive high/low pinning combinations can cause problems for raking so I assume it would be even worse on locks with no MACS consideration.

by **freakparade3** » 28 Apr 2007 23:13

I would say yes, it would effect raking. It also makes SPP a pain in the, well, you know

by **raimundo** » 29 Apr 2007 9:01

pain in the neck?

by **Eyes_Only** » 29 Apr 2007 9:22

Ok thanks. I wanted to make sure because I didn't want to waste my time or scratch up my locks and wear out my rakes in a futile attempt to rake my mortise cylinders with no MACS. I think I'll use my schlage locks with working keys I use for bumping to practice raking.

by **Chucklz** » 29 Apr 2007 16:54

For raking a lock pinned to or beyond MACS try a Bogota or Sabana pick.

by **Eyes_Only** » 29 Apr 2007 22:00

This Sabana pick is new to me. I'll have to search for it. :wink:

by **Chucklz** » 29 Apr 2007 22:47

The Sabana is another of raimundo's creations. It continues the naming trend of the Bogota pick.

If the bogota is ^^^
The sabana is ^--^

ASCII art doesn't do it justice, but if you own a bogota, you will see what I mean. I will try to dig up a picture tomorrow.

by **David_Parker** » 1 May 2007 14:06

More like a pain in the TAILPIECE! hahah, lockpicking comedian, where do I find all of this talent I have.....Chucklz, please do find a photo, if don't, I still know what you mean.

-Dave.

by **Chucklz** » 1 May 2007 18:57

Here you go.

Sabanas are the bottom two, with to Bogota's for a comparison.

by **Eyes_Only** » 1 May 2007 20:39

Rai should seriously consider getting a patent for the tools he makes before some locksmith tool manufacturer steals the designs and markets them and takes all the credit.

by **Chucklz** » 1 May 2007 20:59

A tool manufacturer would only stamp them out and not bother with the correct finish, let alone the handles. And, without the finish and handles, much is lost. Sure they will still be effective, but not as wickedly and beautifully effective.

by **dmux** » 1 May 2007 21:02

sanding and polishing is the key to all picks i think after using the bogotas, it makes a huge difference if they are nice and glassy smooth or punched out at the rate of 10 picks a second through the same die with no deburring

MACS and raking

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