Lock Qustion....kinda of a Noob question

by **bajadan236** » 27 Apr 2007 15:19

Hi, im new to lock picking and kinda new to this form. I just baught a MasterLock No5. Dose it have security pins in it? Correct me if im wronge, but dose a masterlock No5 Have 5pins?

Also, can some just breifly explaain what a security pin is? I dont want to take ur time by having you typing out a long explaintion about sercirty pins olny if you want, or can u direct me to aa site kinda like the MIT Guide to Lockpicking. Thanks in advance!

-BajaDan236

by **UWSDWF** » 27 Apr 2007 15:26

the No5 only has 4 pins according to the masterlock website... no security pins what so ever

check out exercise 10
http://www.crypto.com/papers/notes/picking/

by **bajadan236** » 27 Apr 2007 16:21

i'll check it out, thanks for the website!

-Dan

by **scissor83** » 16 May 2007 9:51

No it does not have security pins. It has 4 pins and is easy to pick. If you want to know what is a security pin then search. If still you cant find what a security pin is ask again.

by **1stACE** » 21 Jun 2007 18:51

ok I have been having trouble opening the tri circle 262 lock. It feels like I have all the pins set, but it still doesn't open. Any one know if it has a safety pin or not?

by **1stACE** » 21 Jun 2007 19:16

oh, and what about the schlage BR-260?
It's the old lock we had on our house entrance door. Is that too difficult, and does it have safety pins?

by **Eyes_Only** » 21 Jun 2007 19:49

Don't know about the Tri Circle lock because I've never dealt with them but with the Schlage, it could have a couple spool pins in there. I had a very old Schlage deadbolt on my front door years ago and it had security pin in that one. All the new ones do I think.

by **cjames73** » 21 Jun 2007 19:56

1stACE wrote:ok I have been having trouble opening the tri circle 262 lock. It feels like I have all the pins set, but it still doesn't open. Any one know if it has a safety pin or not?

from past experience and from what i've read on here all tri-circles have mushroom pins.
some very experienced lockpickers even have trouble opening them so maybe put that one to the side for a while till your more experienced at picking security pins.

by **Shrub** » 21 Jun 2007 19:59

Your not setting the pins obviously or else the lock would open he he he,

Its not in nappies so it wont have a safety pin lol the terms are anti pick pins or security pins, the differant types of pins can be found elsewhere on this site,

Firstly, you are useing more force on your wrench to overcome the padlock locking spring? the tension you put on a ,ock to pick it is very light compared to the tension required to opne most cheap padlocks,

Secondly, yes its highly likely that you lock has spool pins in it and you are in fact false setting one, search on how to know this as i type it out everytime but basically a falsely set one will move the tension back on itself when the false set pin is pressed,

by **1stACE** » 21 Jun 2007 20:46

k thnx for the feed back everyone

and I'll put the tri-circle one aside and work on the schlage then.

by **prolox** » 25 Jun 2007 0:12

its bazaar i just picked that lock up today and ive been having the same problems...i set the pins...yet it doesnt open....i kno its a four-pin....no security...but everytime i set the pins...it refuses to open...wtf?!?!

by **UWSDWF** » 25 Jun 2007 13:57

well either you are turning it the wrong way or the only place you are setting the pins are in your head

by **Trip Doctor** » 25 Jun 2007 14:48

or the only place you are setting the pins are in your head

HAHAHAHA

Nice UWSDWF.

If there are no security pins in it Prolox, maybe you're just getting false sets. After you think you set them, try going over all the pins, and pushing each pin up a bit higher (assuming there are some undersets). If that doesnt work try giving the pins some firm rakes. With my Kwikset that happens a lot (well at least used to happen). I would feel like I set all the pins, but I'd have a couple underset, and then I'd just give the lock a quick firm rake, and it would pop open.

by **prolox** » 25 Jun 2007 16:27

ya i read up on the lock and it turns out that the pins have false set points...a simple rake with double half diamond did the trick thanks =D

by **1stACE** » 28 Jun 2007 16:09

hmm i still haven't opened that little lock. I think it might be because my tools are too big and i don't have much space to work in the lock.
I opened the schlage deadbolt though, it had 4 spools and 1 normal. :wink:

Lock Qustion....kinda of a Noob question

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