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Postby Rodfather23 » 5 Jul 2007 12:14

Does anyone have a template of one of those credit card sized key decoders? hopefully next to a ruler

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Postby UWSDWF » 5 Jul 2007 12:16

I don't but I can tell you people are going to ask for what brands as each are brand specific... then they'll also tell you to get a micrometer and a code book
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Postby Rodfather23 » 5 Jul 2007 12:19

one like this

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Postby freakparade3 » 5 Jul 2007 12:24

Are you looking to make one? Or just curious about the domensions? I got one from www.lockpickshop.com with Kwikset, weiser, Schlage and one other for about $10.
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Postby Rodfather23 » 5 Jul 2007 12:31

I want to make one.........I figure I can print a template and put it on some thin plastic then cut it out with an razor knife.
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Postby freakparade3 » 5 Jul 2007 12:59

In a device that needs to be accurate to the thousandth of an inch I don't see that working well.
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Postby Exodus5000 » 5 Jul 2007 17:38

Yeah, I think these decoders are for determining the code of a machine-cut key, not for cutting a key blank to a specific code.

UWSDWF is right, get a micrometer and a code book, hehe.
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Postby Rodfather23 » 5 Jul 2007 17:46

Exodus5000 wrote:Yeah, I think these decoders are for determining the code of a machine-cut key, not for cutting a key blank to a specific code.



that is why I want it exodus
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Postby davou » 5 Jul 2007 19:31

Rodfather23 wrote:
Exodus5000 wrote:Yeah, I think these decoders are for determining the code of a machine-cut key, not for cutting a key blank to a specific code.



that is why I want it exodus


What people are trying to tell you is that those particular devices need to be extremely accurate. Even the thickness of a few sheets of paper off and they wont give accurate measurements... The only way you would be able to verify that your cuts are that accurate would be with a micrometer. And if you had a micrometer, then the key measuring chart wouldn't be needed at all.
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Postby Trip Doctor » 5 Jul 2007 19:38

Since using a razor to cut to those depths would be pretty infeasible, perhaps you could use a file with a combination of the razor. Of course you'd need the specific brand measurements (code book) and a caliper (by the way is that would you guys mean by micrometer?).
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Postby rakemaster » 5 Jul 2007 19:54

I'd just cut the triangle out of sheet metal and then put calibration marks in it at the appropriate place (using a set of depth keys) if I really wanted to make one.

But I don't see the point. A good dial or digital caliper (with .001 inch resolution) can be had from Harbor Freight for very cheap (and you'd want one anyway to build this in the first place, as someone already pointed out). A caliper is ideal for decoding keys and isn't specific to one set of depths.
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Postby Schuyler » 5 Jul 2007 20:54

Heh, I'm glad that though everyone is making it clear that they don't see the point, you are all offering reasonable suggestions.

I'll tell you, there's always a point to the hobbyist. Even if it's been done better and more professionally by others, it's a hell of a thing to create a solution to your problem yourself.

Good luck with it, man!
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Postby Trip Doctor » 5 Jul 2007 23:32

:D I'm with ya on that one Schuyler.
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Postby TOWCH » 6 Jul 2007 2:08

I can't imagine anyone having a template for one of those.

Take some depth information and make your own in photoshop. It's easier for you to do that than to sweet talk someone who has one in to taking an undistorted to scale scan for you.
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Postby Rodfather23 » 6 Jul 2007 2:42

Schuyler wrote:Heh, I'm glad that though everyone is making it clear that they don't see the point, you are all offering reasonable suggestions.

I'll tell you, there's always a point to the hobbyist. Even if it's been done better and more professionally by others, it's a hell of a thing to create a solution to your problem yourself.

Good luck with it, man!




Yes Schuyler hit the nail on the head.............I understood that it wouldn't be 100% accurate. I like making things myself and best of all I can do it cheaper a lot of times than buying stuff. I guess I'll just use measurements to cut one....I just wanted it to be close not exact to the 1000th.
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