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lost key need to re-key

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lost key need to re-key

Postby brianmay27 » 29 Oct 2007 21:27

ok this is not too important but we have a "server room" where it is a very nice locking handle. however we never got a key. it is not too important because we have a key card to the door but it would be nice to be able to gain access if the power fails. I have picked some things before, a master padlock and my house (boy i feel safe after that :P) But i tried to pick it for a hr and nothing. It could be my hand made picks but i could not get in. if needed i could give the make of the lock. Thanks
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Postby freakparade3 » 29 Oct 2007 22:16

If you have access to the inside of the room and you want to rekey the lock there is no need to pick it. Take the lock off the door shim the cylinder open and rekey it.
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Postby brianmay27 » 29 Oct 2007 22:46

no, you need to have the key turened inside the lock to be able to pull the handel off
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Postby mcm757207 » 29 Oct 2007 22:48

It is possible to completely disassemble the lock from the other side, but it is really a pain to take apart the entire thing.
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Postby razlex » 29 Oct 2007 23:17

you could manually cut a new key for the existing configuration by impressioning.... do a little search... the info is out there :P
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Postby nzleagle » 29 Oct 2007 23:42

A couple of points....

1. Why are you picking a lock in use when you clearly dont have much experience, a

2. Why are you picking a lock you do not own, does the owner know you have been trying to pick the lock?

3. If its so nessacery for a key, why do you not just call a locksmith out, and they could quite easily make a key to it in less than half an hour.

But really unless you are quite experienced, or its a life or death situation (in which case destructive entry would probably be better if you not too good at picking) you really should not be picking a lock that is in use, if in picking the lock, you stuff the lock, and cant acess the server room at all what would you do then?
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Postby josh0094 » 29 Oct 2007 23:45

i beleave the point of this was not to spend money. i work for a non profit.. i understand.
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Postby WOT » 30 Oct 2007 0:19

josh0094 wrote:i beleave the point of this was not to spend money. i work for a non profit.. i understand.


Doesn't mean much. Non-profit are simply supposed to be profit neutral. Their employees are paid just as well, if not better than for-profit sectors.
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Postby WOT » 30 Oct 2007 0:25

freakparade3 wrote:If you have access to the inside of the room and you want to rekey the lock there is no need to pick it. Take the lock off the door shim the cylinder open and rekey it.


It depends on the hardware/lock. If it's a Best ICORE, you have two choices:

1. Pick the control line and pull the core.
2. Drill it out

Some door hardware have a little button you push at the base of the knob. I seem to recall seeing one that prevents the actuation of this button until you already have the core removed from the handle.
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Postby brianmay27 » 30 Oct 2007 1:15

well if i do break it, it does not mader, since the key card uses a electronic lock which is not part of the door lock. Also, i dont think i want to go as far as drilling it out. Yes the owner knows about this.
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Postby Afisch » 30 Oct 2007 12:57

If you can get into the room then you either want to remove the lock from the inside, or impression the lock. I'm guessing it's KeyInKnob by what your saying, i'd say try impressioning some locks in your hands then attempt the same thing with that door lock.
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Postby josh0094 » 30 Oct 2007 18:05

WOT wrote:
josh0094 wrote:i beleave the point of this was not to spend money. i work for a non profit.. i understand.


Doesn't mean much. Non-profit are simply supposed to be profit neutral. Their employees are paid just as well, if not better than for-profit sectors.


well company i work for is POOR
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Postby brianmay27 » 30 Oct 2007 18:18

ok great, so my first question is where can i get a blank key? can i just go up to a store and ask for one or do i have to order online? thanks
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Postby fuzz » 30 Oct 2007 18:50

your local locksmiths or keycutters, enquire there.
what type of lock is it? - considering it's separate to the electronic part. . . I was thinking it would be easier just to reinstall another lock, IF its cheaper and easier
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Postby fuzz » 30 Oct 2007 18:50

brianmay27 wrote:ok great, so my first question is where can i get a blank key? can i just go up to a store and ask for one or do i have to order online? thanks


look for a number on the lock too, if there is one?
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