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master lock

Postby adamram » 3 Feb 2008 18:21

I need help with this one guys.Assuming I have a cylinder and i dont know wich type.first of all can i know the type and the key to it,second of all can i make a key to it and the master key if i have more cylinders of the same type.

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Postby freakparade3 » 3 Feb 2008 18:58

Can you explain things a little clearer? Your post makes no sense.
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Postby delocking » 3 Feb 2008 19:28

I think he's asking that if he has one or more cylinders make / model unknown without any keys, could he make a suited set?

So the short answer would be yes it can be done.

Having the knowledge to do it is another matter :wink:
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Postby freakparade3 » 3 Feb 2008 22:09

It can be done, no we won't teach you how.
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Postby tecnovist » 5 Feb 2008 1:58

adamram
Do you have any pic's of this lock
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MASTER

Postby adamram » 5 Feb 2008 8:37

tecnovist

ITS A GENERAL QUESTION,IN THEORY CAN IT BE DONE

THANK YOU
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Postby Eyes_Only » 5 Feb 2008 8:54

freakparade3 wrote:It can be done, no we won't teach you how.


Why not?
If a lock is a puzzle, then its key is the complete picture
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Re: master lock

Postby MBI » 5 Feb 2008 9:59

adamram wrote:I need help with this one guys.Assuming I have a cylinder and i dont know wich type.first of all can i know the type and the key to it,second of all can i make a key to it and the master key if i have more cylinders of the same type.

Thanks


Help me understand what exactly you're asking.

Do you have spare locks for which you need to determine their keyblank, then rekey them with under a masterkey system? If this is the case let us know what kind of locks they are, and post pictures if possible, including the keyway. If you can't do that, describe the locks (including the brand name if it's on it) and let us know in what area you live as that may give us a clue what type of locks you have. If this is what you're trying to do, it can be easy depending on what kind of locks they are and whether you have the right equipment. If you don't have the right equipment, it'll be cheaper and easier to have a locksmith do it.

Or do you have some locks which you want to decode and determine the masterkey for system which they already use? If it's the latter, you may have to post more information here before someone will help you since people might want to be sure you're not trying to compromise someone else's masterkeyed system for eeeevil purposes.
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Postby adamram » 5 Feb 2008 10:52

ok,i will try to be presice,believe me i am new to this.

I HAVE ONLY THE CYLINDER,ITS A MEDICO MORTISE CYLINDER,SO MY QUESTION IS CAN I MAKE A KEY FOR THIS CYLINDER.WITH OUT HAVING ITS ORIGINAL KEY OR A DUPLICATE

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Re: MASTER

Postby tecnovist » 5 Feb 2008 18:04

adamram wrote:tecnovist

ITS A GENERAL QUESTION,IN THEORY CAN IT BE DONE

THANK YOU


well intheory most things can be done -- making a key blank is not ease you may need some type of milling M/C
and it depends on the type of key . Thats why I asked for a pic of the lock :o
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Re: master

Postby MBI » 5 Feb 2008 19:08

adamram wrote:ok,i will try to be presice,believe me i am new to this.

I HAVE ONLY THE CYLINDER,ITS A MEDICO MORTISE CYLINDER,SO MY QUESTION IS CAN I MAKE A KEY FOR THIS CYLINDER.WITH OUT HAVING ITS ORIGINAL KEY OR A DUPLICATE

THANK YOU


The definitive answer is maybe.

If it's a newer Medeco lock, the keys are patent protected. Different locksmiths will have access to different blanks for the various keyways, but even if you find a locksmith with the blank you need he's not supposed to make duplicates unless you have the authorization card that came with the lock.

If you have a Medeco lock where the keyways aren't restricted (usually older locks), you can decode the lock by disassembling it and looking at the pins and then make a new key. Compared to regular pin tumbler locks, it's kind of a pain to do this with a Medeco so it definitley won't be cheap.
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