all pins gone, lock cant open

[h3x]

hi, im new to lockpicking...
i picked all 5 pins (i saw 5 empty holes, and no more pins) in my door lock.
It took me over 10 minutes but i did it

However, the lock didnt turned
Do you know why? I even put a screwdriver into it and tried to turn it - didnt work.

My lock has pins at the bottom.

[patrick181]

I even put a screwdriver into it and tried to turn it - didnt work..

im no expert your first course of action would be to put down the screw driver and back away from the lock in use! .... oh, and just because all the pins are down doesnt mean you picked the lock You should buy a cheap padlock

[robotmaxtron]

It seems as if you don't really quite grasp the concept of lockpicking. Check out the MIT Guide to Lockpicking.

Basically i think the problem is that the bottom pins are getting lodged inside the shell blocking the plug from spinning at all thus opening the lock.

The bottom pins need to just move the top pins into the shell and then fall back down into the keyway. The MIT guide should help explain this further

[adamd]

SCREWDRIVER!!!

I agree read the MIT guide and a lot of the posts on this site first, they've helped me a hell of a lot in the short time I've been picking

[h3x]

i used a screwdriver only to help turning it, not smashing a lack
my lockpicks are made from paperclips, one with flat end to turn the lock, and second is straight, but big... And i cant feel pins with it, just i can block them so they cant pop up.

[adamd]

There is plenty of posts on home made lock picks in the Lockpick-manual section to get you started.

[MacGyver101]

. . . And i cant feel pins with it, just i can block them so they cant pop up.

As other folks have suggested, the MIT Guide to Lockpicking and the LSI Primer are both excellent beginner texts that should help a lot. (There may be better/faster locations to download those documents from: they were the first that I randomly pulled from a Google search, and the LSI site has been acting up a bit the last while.)

In short, you're not looking to block the pins from dropping down: you're looking to use your lockpicks to coax the pins into the same position that they would be if you had put the proper key into the lock. If you look at the cuts on your key, you'll see that every pin needs to be set to a different height... there are many ways to do this, and the above references will get you started on developing your skills. It can be a fascinating hobby: welcome to lockpicking.

[mh]

i used a screwdriver only to help turning it, not smashing a lack
my lockpicks are made from paperclips, one with flat end to turn the lock, and second is straight, but big... And i cant feel pins with it, just i can block them so they cant pop up.

What you did could also be achieved by inserting an uncut key blank into the lock, and obviously they usually don't open with uncut key blanks. So - there's more to do, the other posts give good ideas where to start - welcome, it's quite fun!
Also, start with a more simple lock, like a cheap padlock, it's usually more fun in the beginning

Cheers,
mh

[josh0094]

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my lockpicks are made from paperclips

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[cracksman]

A quick note on the screwdriver issue. I had a student who used a master lock on his locker he took from his shed at home. The lock had been outdoors for a good 5 years. He lost the key and said dad would be mad if he didn't bring the lock back (we usually just use bolt cutters if they forgot the combo or lost the key). So I tried to pick it, I was sure I had it picked, but the plug wouldn't budge. I literally spent about 15 minutes after school on the lock, swearing it was picked, but it wouldn't open. I finally decided, more out of frustration than anything else, to grab the screwdriver out of my desk, pick the lock, and put the screwdriver in about an 1/8 of an inch and turn it. "Pop", the lock was just corroded and the tension wrench was enough to apply pressure to pick, but not enough to turn the plug.

In short, people here at Lp101 (me included) get scared when we hear people talk about screwdrivers or any other destructive tools around locks. There are however legitimate times to use them, and your case is probably one of them.

p.s. If you can, get some real picks or make some. Paper clips will work, but quite honestly the metal they are made of is to weak for picking.

[unlisted]

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my lockpicks are made from paperclips

ur screwed viewtopic.php?t=20862

Not to go too far off topic, but josh, I thought you were not going to be posting anymore in the public forums... ? (something you mentioned in another topic you started...?)

[Safety0ff]

Not to go too far off topic, but josh, I thought you were not going to be posting anymore in the public forums... ? (something you mentioned in another topic you started...?)

No need to start drama again. I'm pretty sure this post was well before his second post in that thread.

[unlisted]

Not to go too far off topic, but josh, I thought you were not going to be posting anymore in the public forums... ? (something you mentioned in another topic you started...?)

No need to start drama again. I'm pretty sure this post was well before his second post in that thread.

I could not find that last topic, I was just curious.. not drama starting.. *this time*