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Kwikset is suing Master Lock...

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Kwikset is suing Master Lock...

Postby WOT » 3 Jun 2008 5:50

Kwikset is claiming patent infringement and is suing Master Lock. I can't find the full complaint online, but I was wondering if anyone knows more about this case.

http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuit.asp?id=34894
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Postby Jaakko » 4 Jun 2008 12:19

"You make better quality locks, we sue you"? :D All 5 pin tumbler locks are belong to us?

I too would really like to hear more about this, especially what patents?
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Postby freakparade3 » 4 Jun 2008 12:54

I can't find any specific information but it may have something to do with master using the KW1 keyway for their deadbolt and knob locks.
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Postby Schuyler » 4 Jun 2008 14:10

They are suing for infringement related to Masterlock's "recodable" locks. They are instantly rekeyable like the smartkey, and make use of a change tool, like the smartkey.
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Postby freakparade3 » 4 Jun 2008 14:33

Schuyler wrote:They are suing for infringement related to Masterlock's "recodable" locks. They are instantly rekeyable like the smartkey, and make use of a change tool, like the smartkey.


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Postby Schuyler » 4 Jun 2008 14:47

I'm a newsman 8)
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Postby WOT » 4 Jun 2008 15:03

freakparade3 wrote:I can't find any specific information but it may have something to do with master using the KW1 keyway for their deadbolt and knob locks.


Doubtful. Many generic locks are made with the KW1 keyway and specs. I have a lock with ATLAS brand with KW1 keyway and I have no idea who makes it... It was like $10.

There's nothing patentable about the KW1 keyway.
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Postby WOT » 4 Jun 2008 15:05

I find it comical that MasterLock Company has an YouTube account. I wonder if it's actually owned by the company though.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 4 Jun 2008 23:06

AWwwWWwww, son of a B**** man!! As soon as I thought I had the Kwikset Smart Key under control as far as lock out calls are concerned now Master Lock has to make their own version? The year isn't even half way through and I've already spent over $5000 in tools. Does this ever end?
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Postby Schuyler » 6 Jun 2008 10:55

Eyes_Only wrote:AWwwWWwww, son of a B**** man!! As soon as I thought I had the Kwikset Smart Key under control as far as lock out calls are concerned now Master Lock has to make their own version? The year isn't even half way through and I've already spent over $5000 in tools. Does this ever end?


heh, if the lawsuit takes hold, maybe you won't have to sweat it :P
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Postby freakparade3 » 6 Jun 2008 13:35

Eyes_Only wrote:AWwwWWwww, son of a B**** man!! As soon as I thought I had the Kwikset Smart Key under control as far as lock out calls are concerned now Master Lock has to make their own version? The year isn't even half way through and I've already spent over $5000 in tools. Does this ever end?


I have discovered on any job I have every tool except the one I need. :wink:
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Postby MacGnG1 » 6 Jun 2008 23:17

hey this is america, u can sue any one for anything ;)
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